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| 2025-01-16 12:07:54 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@146.70.66.228) (Quit: Nothing to see here. I wasn't there. I take IRC seriously. I do not work for any body DIRECTLY although I do represent BOT NET.) |
| 2025-01-16 12:07:02 +0100 | <smiesner> | thank you so much! |
| 2025-01-16 12:06:59 +0100 | <Leary> | mreh: Try 'stable-memo' or 'memo-ptr' and find out. |
| 2025-01-16 12:05:29 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Check with them for further details. |
| 2025-01-16 12:05:24 +0100 | <dminuoso> | The Haskell team members generally hang out in the Matrix room #haskell:nixos.org. |
| 2025-01-16 12:05:07 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Hydra evaluates haskell-branch every 4 hours. |
| 2025-01-16 12:05:01 +0100 | <dminuoso> | smiesner: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/haskell-updates/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/HACKING.md#… here we go |
| 2025-01-16 12:03:48 +0100 | <dminuoso> | See https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/haskell-updates/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/HACKING.md |
| 2025-01-16 12:03:30 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Now there's some maintainer script to merge open haskell-updates PRs back into master. |
| 2025-01-16 12:02:56 +0100 | <dminuoso> | smiesner: There is a branch called haskell-updates which I believe is updated daily |
| 2025-01-16 12:02:47 +0100 | <smiesner> | just used it once or twice |
| 2025-01-16 12:02:39 +0100 | <smiesner> | i'm really a noobie with nix, sorry |
| 2025-01-16 12:02:28 +0100 | <smiesner> | hm, i cant find the package I want to use the latest version of in the main.yaml. it's this one: https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=24.11&show=haskellPackages.hosc&from=0&size=50&sort=rele… |
| 2025-01-16 12:02:11 +0100 | <dminuoso> | smiesner: Though know, that these updates dont get merged into master automatically. |
| 2025-01-16 12:00:23 +0100 | <dminuoso> | If its unpinned, it should get updated the next time haskell2nix runs (daily perhaps? unsure) |
| 2025-01-16 12:00:07 +0100 | <dminuoso> | (or a pin via stackage resolver) |
| 2025-01-16 12:00:01 +0100 | <dminuoso> | smiesner: It depends on whether it receives a pin in that main.yaml |
| 2025-01-16 11:59:27 +0100 | <smiesner> | just for my understanding now: when a library is bumped on hackage, how long does nix need to integrate it? or is it no time at all bc it 'researches' on every nix build try? |
| 2025-01-16 11:59:03 +0100 | <dminuoso> | If you can muster that, its great. If not... haskell.nix is a kind of terrible experience unless you dont mind following the update cadence of IOG. |
| 2025-01-16 11:58:37 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@146.70.66.228) housemate |
| 2025-01-16 11:58:36 +0100 | <dminuoso> | The biggest price tag is that you really want a local nix cache with some CI that is able to build the bootstrap GHCs continuously for all architectures you have. |
| 2025-01-16 11:58:23 +0100 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) (Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2) |
| 2025-01-16 11:57:55 +0100 | <smiesner> | thanks for the very detailed explanation and links! |
| 2025-01-16 11:57:38 +0100 | <dminuoso> | It's only haskell.nix here now, which gives us all the benefits and the big price tag attached to it. :-) |
| 2025-01-16 11:57:09 +0100 | <dminuoso> | At work we have stopped using nixpkgs haskell packages because it leads to lot of problems and lack of speed. |
| 2025-01-16 11:56:41 +0100 | <dminuoso> | (So roughly we take most of hackage, but when the package is also on some stackage resolver - dont ask me which - then we try to provide the version from that stackage resolveer/ |
| 2025-01-16 11:56:30 +0100 | <yushyin> | smiesner: maybe you can/should overlay the package or even use haskell.nix, either way, it might be worth popping over to #haskell:nixos.org and asking them what you should do now |
| 2025-01-16 11:56:16 +0100 | <mreh> | is it possible to (somewhat) reliably memoise with function type arguments? maybe with something like a StableName and some compiler magic? |
| 2025-01-16 11:55:49 +0100 | <smiesner> | dminuoso: thank you very much! |
| 2025-01-16 11:55:47 +0100 | <dminuoso> | smiesner: https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/stable/#haskell-available-packages contains a bit of documentation on the subject |
| 2025-01-16 11:53:22 +0100 | <dminuoso> | (As you can see, this roughly follows stackage) |
| 2025-01-16 11:53:06 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Err ./pkgs/development/haskell-modules/configuration-hackage2nix/main.yaml rather, sorry |
| 2025-01-16 11:52:24 +0100 | <dminuoso> | s/nix/nixpkgs/ |
| 2025-01-16 11:52:17 +0100 | <dminuoso> | But not for regular updates. Roughly nix is doing the same thing as stackage: provide a snapshot of hackage where things mostly work with each other. |
| 2025-01-16 11:51:41 +0100 | mreh | (~matthew@host86-146-138-36.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) mreh |
| 2025-01-16 11:51:40 +0100 | <dminuoso> | There is ./pkgs/development/haskell-modules/configuration-hackage2nix/stackage.yaml however that is used to fiddle with that manuallz |
| 2025-01-16 11:51:34 +0100 | <smiesner> | oh great, reading would have helped as always |
| 2025-01-16 11:51:09 +0100 | <yushyin> | see first line of that file: /* hackage-packages.nix is auto-generated by hackage2nix -- DO NOT EDIT MANUALLY! */ |
| 2025-01-16 11:50:24 +0100 | Square2 | (~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-01-16 11:48:49 +0100 | <dminuoso> | smiesner: That will happen automatically to a degree. |
| 2025-01-16 11:48:34 +0100 | <smiesner> | I want to bump it's version, since there is an update of the library. |
| 2025-01-16 11:48:17 +0100 | <dminuoso> | smiesner: What exactly do you want to do with the package? |
| 2025-01-16 11:48:04 +0100 | <dminuoso> | No. |
| 2025-01-16 11:47:51 +0100 | <smiesner> | hi, i want to update a haskell package in nix. is this the correct file i have to edit and PR? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/nixos-24.11/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/hackage-package… |
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