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| 2025-01-01 19:25:41 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | simula and whatnot |
| 2025-01-01 19:25:14 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | it's kinda sorta true it blew the precursors into obliviion |
| 2025-01-01 19:24:37 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@095a-6255-7d54-b1bd-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) hellwolf |
| 2025-01-01 19:24:26 +0100 | <EvanR> | a useful fiction |
| 2025-01-01 19:24:18 +0100 | <EvanR> | lol |
| 2025-01-01 19:24:11 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | let's be simple and say st orginated OOP, i'm good with that |
| 2025-01-01 19:23:38 +0100 | <EvanR> | ok it's object system comes from previous object systems? |
| 2025-01-01 19:23:18 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | lisp was 30yo when common started specing which it is still doin |
| 2025-01-01 19:22:48 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | no common lisp is newer than st |
| 2025-01-01 19:22:35 +0100 | <EvanR> | like common lisp? |
| 2025-01-01 19:22:17 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | well there were various lisp system precursors |
| 2025-01-01 19:21:57 +0100 | <EvanR> | (this has the form of a badly formed question) |
| 2025-01-01 19:21:43 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | there's a channel here or more than one but the main squeak is on slack |
| 2025-01-01 19:21:30 +0100 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d080:1a3c:85df:bc39:7f26:1b7c) dtman34 |
| 2025-01-01 19:21:23 +0100 | <EvanR> | if smalltalk didn't invent OOP then what did |
| 2025-01-01 19:20:37 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@bc5f-7784-4618-91ba-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-01-01 19:20:22 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | smalltalk reads like english, which is why its called that |
| 2025-01-01 19:19:49 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | c++ and java and other stuff glommed on like a decade or two later |
| 2025-01-01 19:19:16 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | https://squeak.org/ |
| 2025-01-01 19:18:35 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | and way easier than hs |
| 2025-01-01 19:18:23 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | but it is probably the most elegant and fun |
| 2025-01-01 19:18:08 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | which is generally credited with inventing it which is also false |
| 2025-01-01 19:17:51 +0100 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 2025-01-01 19:17:43 +0100 | chris_on_linux | (~user@2a02:2149:8638:ce00:224e:f6ff:fe4a:8927) (Quit: ERC 5.5.0.29.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 29.4)) |
| 2025-01-01 19:17:31 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | and OOP is kinda long in the tooth by now; I learned it when it was new with smalltalk where it was and still is fun. |
| 2025-01-01 19:17:10 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | Have a happy new year, gentlemen |
| 2025-01-01 19:17:01 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | You were by far the best community |
| 2025-01-01 19:16:53 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | Thank you for talking to me |
| 2025-01-01 19:16:49 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | I will go now |
| 2025-01-01 19:16:39 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | I have had enough, my head is starting to hurt |
| 2025-01-01 19:16:18 +0100 | <EvanR> | http://lucacardelli.name/Topics/TheoryOfObjects/ObjectSubject.html |
| 2025-01-01 19:16:16 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | *our thing |
| 2025-01-01 19:16:07 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | from a snooty or thing is pure mathematics perspective tho they wont say that |
| 2025-01-01 19:15:57 +0100 | <monochrom> | >:) |
| 2025-01-01 19:15:57 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | What???? |
| 2025-01-01 19:15:46 +0100 | <EvanR> | at the very least, you will need to know what a trisquirclehedron is |
| 2025-01-01 19:15:31 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | ppl here are down on both (OOP and java) just so u know |
| 2025-01-01 19:15:16 +0100 | <EvanR> | but it's not supported in many languages |
| 2025-01-01 19:15:06 +0100 | <EvanR> | ways of |
| 2025-01-01 19:15:03 +0100 | <EvanR> | there's ways to "doing oop right" |
| 2025-01-01 19:15:02 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | Way too much boilerplate in Java |
| 2025-01-01 19:14:52 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | OOP is very tiring for me at least |
| 2025-01-01 19:14:43 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | I have always liked programming, but now I have finally gotten the hang of it in Java |
| 2025-01-01 19:14:22 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | i was 71 btw Sunday |
| 2025-01-01 19:14:05 +0100 | <monochrom> | (You end up still needing random blogs from random people for Windows and Java too because you can't actually count on MS or Oracle to be forthcoming about undocumented but de facto features.) |
| 2025-01-01 19:13:58 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | by the time ur 20 u'll be proficient |
| 2025-01-01 19:13:44 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | ur 14 for chrissakes |
| 2025-01-01 19:13:39 +0100 | <EvanR> | alternatively make text only programs, but a terminal interface library might be helpful there too |
| 2025-01-01 19:13:30 +0100 | <JuanDaugherty> | just enjoy LYAH |
| 2025-01-01 19:13:11 +0100 | <chris_on_linux> | I saw f(x) on the first page and got scared |