2025/01/01

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2025-01-01 19:45:02 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2025-01-01 19:34:39 +0100JuanDaughertyjust realized the kid left
2025-01-01 19:33:52 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> it's not really a production vm, networking doesn work for example but it does run current images
2025-01-01 19:33:07 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2025-01-01 19:32:43 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> https://squeak.js.org/ the launcher link there will run squeak in a browser
2025-01-01 19:31:59 +0100 <monochrom> IMO Smalltalk does justice to untyped OOP, OCaml does justice to typed OOP. Accept no less.
2025-01-01 19:31:12 +0100 <monochrom> But of course Smalltalk showcases the idea to its full extent.
2025-01-01 19:30:47 +0100acidjnk_new3(~acidjnk@p200300d6e7283f705914636323d7efe9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk
2025-01-01 19:30:19 +0100Lord_of_Life_Lord_of_Life
2025-01-01 19:30:08 +0100 <monochrom> Yeah Simula. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole-Johan_Dahl . See also the Turing Award 2001 citation.
2025-01-01 19:29:18 +0100Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-01-01 19:28:54 +0100Lord_of_Life_(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
2025-01-01 19:28:19 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2025-01-01 19:26:34 +0100 <geekosaur> some attribute it to SIMULA-60 because it used an actor model
2025-01-01 19:25:41 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> simula and whatnot
2025-01-01 19:25:14 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> it's kinda sorta true it blew the precursors into obliviion
2025-01-01 19:24:37 +0100hellwolf(~user@095a-6255-7d54-b1bd-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) hellwolf
2025-01-01 19:24:26 +0100 <EvanR> a useful fiction
2025-01-01 19:24:18 +0100 <EvanR> lol
2025-01-01 19:24:11 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> let's be simple and say st orginated OOP, i'm good with that
2025-01-01 19:23:38 +0100 <EvanR> ok it's object system comes from previous object systems?
2025-01-01 19:23:18 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> lisp was 30yo when common started specing which it is still doin
2025-01-01 19:22:48 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> no common lisp is newer than st
2025-01-01 19:22:35 +0100 <EvanR> like common lisp?
2025-01-01 19:22:17 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> well there were various lisp system precursors
2025-01-01 19:21:57 +0100 <EvanR> (this has the form of a badly formed question)
2025-01-01 19:21:43 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> there's a channel here or more than one but the main squeak is on slack
2025-01-01 19:21:30 +0100dtman34(~dtman34@2601:447:d080:1a3c:85df:bc39:7f26:1b7c) dtman34
2025-01-01 19:21:23 +0100 <EvanR> if smalltalk didn't invent OOP then what did
2025-01-01 19:20:37 +0100hellwolf(~user@bc5f-7784-4618-91ba-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-01-01 19:20:22 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> smalltalk reads like english, which is why its called that
2025-01-01 19:19:49 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> c++ and java and other stuff glommed on like a decade or two later
2025-01-01 19:19:16 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> https://squeak.org/
2025-01-01 19:18:35 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> and way easier than hs
2025-01-01 19:18:23 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> but it is probably the most elegant and fun
2025-01-01 19:18:08 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> which is generally credited with inventing it which is also false
2025-01-01 19:17:51 +0100tzh(~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
2025-01-01 19:17:43 +0100chris_on_linux(~user@2a02:2149:8638:ce00:224e:f6ff:fe4a:8927) (Quit: ERC 5.5.0.29.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 29.4))
2025-01-01 19:17:31 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> and OOP is kinda long in the tooth by now; I learned it when it was new with smalltalk where it was and still is fun.
2025-01-01 19:17:10 +0100 <chris_on_linux> Have a happy new year, gentlemen
2025-01-01 19:17:01 +0100 <chris_on_linux> You were by far the best community
2025-01-01 19:16:53 +0100 <chris_on_linux> Thank you for talking to me