2025/01/01

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2025-01-01 19:19:16 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> https://squeak.org/
2025-01-01 19:18:35 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> and way easier than hs
2025-01-01 19:18:23 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> but it is probably the most elegant and fun
2025-01-01 19:18:08 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> which is generally credited with inventing it which is also false
2025-01-01 19:17:51 +0100tzh(~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
2025-01-01 19:17:43 +0100chris_on_linux(~user@2a02:2149:8638:ce00:224e:f6ff:fe4a:8927) (Quit: ERC 5.5.0.29.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 29.4))
2025-01-01 19:17:31 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> and OOP is kinda long in the tooth by now; I learned it when it was new with smalltalk where it was and still is fun.
2025-01-01 19:17:10 +0100 <chris_on_linux> Have a happy new year, gentlemen
2025-01-01 19:17:01 +0100 <chris_on_linux> You were by far the best community
2025-01-01 19:16:53 +0100 <chris_on_linux> Thank you for talking to me
2025-01-01 19:16:49 +0100 <chris_on_linux> I will go now
2025-01-01 19:16:39 +0100 <chris_on_linux> I have had enough, my head is starting to hurt
2025-01-01 19:16:18 +0100 <EvanR> http://lucacardelli.name/Topics/TheoryOfObjects/ObjectSubject.html
2025-01-01 19:16:16 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> *our thing
2025-01-01 19:16:07 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> from a snooty or thing is pure mathematics perspective tho they wont say that
2025-01-01 19:15:57 +0100 <monochrom> >:)
2025-01-01 19:15:57 +0100 <chris_on_linux> What????
2025-01-01 19:15:46 +0100 <EvanR> at the very least, you will need to know what a trisquirclehedron is
2025-01-01 19:15:31 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> ppl here are down on both (OOP and java) just so u know
2025-01-01 19:15:16 +0100 <EvanR> but it's not supported in many languages
2025-01-01 19:15:06 +0100 <EvanR> ways of
2025-01-01 19:15:03 +0100 <EvanR> there's ways to "doing oop right"
2025-01-01 19:15:02 +0100 <chris_on_linux> Way too much boilerplate in Java
2025-01-01 19:14:52 +0100 <chris_on_linux> OOP is very tiring for me at least
2025-01-01 19:14:43 +0100 <chris_on_linux> I have always liked programming, but now I have finally gotten the hang of it in Java
2025-01-01 19:14:22 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> i was 71 btw Sunday
2025-01-01 19:14:05 +0100 <monochrom> (You end up still needing random blogs from random people for Windows and Java too because you can't actually count on MS or Oracle to be forthcoming about undocumented but de facto features.)
2025-01-01 19:13:58 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> by the time ur 20 u'll be proficient
2025-01-01 19:13:44 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> ur 14 for chrissakes
2025-01-01 19:13:39 +0100 <EvanR> alternatively make text only programs, but a terminal interface library might be helpful there too
2025-01-01 19:13:30 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> just enjoy LYAH
2025-01-01 19:13:11 +0100 <chris_on_linux> I saw f(x) on the first page and got scared
2025-01-01 19:13:07 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> here's a second opinion on the gui: dont
2025-01-01 19:12:59 +0100 <monochrom> So of course for example linux docs are scatterd, windows docs are central. Oh wait.
2025-01-01 19:12:38 +0100 <monochrom> scattered doc is because scatter (community) effort. central doc is because central (corproate) effort.
2025-01-01 19:12:33 +0100 <chris_on_linux> I will right now
2025-01-01 19:12:28 +0100 <EvanR> make haskell visual
2025-01-01 19:12:08 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> give LYAH a try
2025-01-01 19:12:05 +0100 <EvanR> get a graphical library as soon as possible, like diagrams or gloss
2025-01-01 19:11:50 +0100 <chris_on_linux> I like the Haskell way of doing things, but I don't really get it
2025-01-01 19:11:34 +0100 <chris_on_linux> The most fun language I would say, if you know what you're doing
2025-01-01 19:11:20 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> java is corporate
2025-01-01 19:11:10 +0100gmg(~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh
2025-01-01 19:10:55 +0100 <JuanDaugherty> hs is way more fun than java
2025-01-01 19:10:49 +0100 <chris_on_linux> It's scattered around many websites
2025-01-01 19:10:43 +0100 <chris_on_linux> You can't even find central documentation like Haskell
2025-01-01 19:10:28 +0100 <monochrom> Oh I tell people RTFM too. But I provide a specific link.
2025-01-01 19:10:20 +0100 <EvanR> lol
2025-01-01 19:10:14 +0100 <chris_on_linux> Not at all
2025-01-01 19:10:06 +0100 <EvanR> does java have an especially good manual?