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| 2024-12-28 12:37:51 +0100 | tnt2 | tnt1 |
| 2024-12-28 12:37:51 +0100 | tnt1 | (~Thunderbi@user/tnt1) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2024-12-28 12:37:05 +0100 | tnt2 | (~Thunderbi@user/tnt1) tnt1 |
| 2024-12-28 12:36:48 +0100 | <__monty__> | SrPx: Is it too slow just the first time or every time? I don't think you can speed up `cabal run` much but maybe watching the files with something like ghcid or entr and running `cabal build` whenever the project changes will avoid having to pay the full price of compilation the moment you run code from your editor? |
| 2024-12-28 12:36:00 +0100 | acidjnk_new3 | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e7283f42bc4ebb891d7561a4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-12-28 12:32:34 +0100 | <SrPx> | yes but it is still a repl, not sure how that helps with running it from a separate terminal? |
| 2024-12-28 12:32:28 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-12-28 12:31:56 +0100 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: zzz) |
| 2024-12-28 12:31:20 +0100 | ljdarj1 | ljdarj |
| 2024-12-28 12:31:20 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-12-28 12:31:08 +0100 | ljdarj1 | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
| 2024-12-28 12:29:34 +0100 | <Leary> | It watches your source and test files for changes and reloads a repl in the background. |
| 2024-12-28 12:28:58 +0100 | <SrPx> | that would be ideal |
| 2024-12-28 12:28:54 +0100 | <SrPx> | Leary: I've seen ghciwatch but it seemed unrelated, so you mean it can keep a repl open, and then allow me to access it in a separate terminal? |
| 2024-12-28 12:28:18 +0100 | <mauke> | (IIRC there is no 'optimization' setting in *.cabal files; you'd have to do soemthing like 'ghc-options: -O2') |
| 2024-12-28 12:28:12 +0100 | <Leary> | SrPx: When I say repl, I really mean indirectly via ghcid/ghciwatch, as I recommended earlier. They can run `-- $> <code>` comments embedded in haskell files and be made to watch e.g. your .hvml test file for changes. |
| 2024-12-28 12:28:04 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-28 12:27:20 +0100 | <mauke> | yes |
| 2024-12-28 12:26:42 +0100 | <SrPx> | I had to set 'optimization: 2' on cabal.project because setting it on HVM3.cabal was being ignored for some reason |
| 2024-12-28 12:26:09 +0100 | <SrPx> | that goes in cabal.project? |
| 2024-12-28 12:25:37 +0100 | <mauke> | just set the optimization level to 1 or 0 for dev |
| 2024-12-28 12:25:08 +0100 | <SrPx> | __monty__: yes but it seems like `cabal run hvml` is slower than `:r` on `cabal repl` (which is quite fast it seems) |
| 2024-12-28 12:24:02 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@dynamic-176-007-157-163.176.7.pool.telefonica.de) |
| 2024-12-28 12:23:17 +0100 | <__monty__> | Just have your editor run `cabal run hvml` instead of `hvml`? (Modulo `--` to pass options to hvml rather than Cabal or something.) |
| 2024-12-28 12:22:57 +0100 | <SrPx> | because if I'm editing "foo.hvml" I want to be able to run it there, rather than moving to another tab (of the cabal repl) and typing its full path |
| 2024-12-28 12:22:23 +0100 | <SrPx> | so basically you're saying I need to use the repl instead of my editor to run files I test, which kinda sucks |
| 2024-12-28 12:21:43 +0100 | <SrPx> | Leary: that doesn't fit my project. it is a language and I'm iteratively extending it and testing (by opening foo.hvml files and running them on my editor). so, I need a quick feedback loop where I change something on the Haskell project, move to my editor, and run an hvml file there |
| 2024-12-28 12:20:04 +0100 | <Leary> | `cabal install` is not intended for development. Things that can be tested with interpreted code should be run in repl, things that need compilation should be `test-suite`s or `benchmark`s in your .cabal file with appropriate optimisation flags. |
| 2024-12-28 12:19:23 +0100 | <SrPx> | ah that's better but still takes ~3s |
| 2024-12-28 12:18:55 +0100 | sawilagar | (~sawilagar@user/sawilagar) sawilagar |
| 2024-12-28 12:18:30 +0100 | sawilagar | (~sawilagar@user/sawilagar) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-12-28 12:18:24 +0100 | <mauke> | any reason you're not using 'cabal run'? |
| 2024-12-28 12:17:12 +0100 | <SrPx> | but I'd like to call it from a standalone terminal, not from inside cabal repl. can I replicate that quick reload without having to be inside cabal repl? |
| 2024-12-28 12:16:31 +0100 | <SrPx> | im testing cabal repl and it seems to work decently enough, without optimizations though |
| 2024-12-28 12:16:24 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-12-28 12:15:59 +0100 | <SrPx> | that's how I work usually, but cabal install taking forever is making this miserable |
| 2024-12-28 12:15:40 +0100 | <SrPx> | mauke: 1. make some change to the project. 2. cabal install. 3. run the file I want to test (ex: 'hvml run my_file.hvml'). |
| 2024-12-28 12:12:54 +0100 | <mauke> | heh, that readme is functionally meaningless |
| 2024-12-28 12:12:01 +0100 | <mauke> | also, why are you running 'cabal install' during development? |
| 2024-12-28 12:11:53 +0100 | <mauke> | but which part of 'cabal install' is taking the most time? compiling, linking, installing, something else? |
| 2024-12-28 12:11:52 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-28 12:11:16 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@dynamic-176-006-141-001.176.6.pool.telefonica.de) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-12-28 12:09:00 +0100 | <SrPx> | runhaskell cant be used in a project? |
| 2024-12-28 12:07:37 +0100 | <SrPx> | so whenever I make a change in HVM3, I need to wait 20s to run a hvml file and test it. |
| 2024-12-28 12:07:22 +0100 | <SrPx> | which isn't even a big project |
| 2024-12-28 12:07:19 +0100 | <SrPx> | doing 'cabal install' on https://github.com/HigherOrderCO/HVM3... |
| 2024-12-28 12:05:33 +0100 | <mauke> | what is taking 20s? |
| 2024-12-28 12:04:40 +0100 | <Leary> | SrPx: ghcid/ghciwatch |
| 2024-12-28 12:03:43 +0100 | <int-e> | Hmm maybe `cabal repl` and :r gets you close enough? |
| 2024-12-28 12:03:32 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |