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2024-12-28 05:09:58 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I guess it was overloaded. I have a couple of terrific daily-use electron apps, but more memory to run them in |
2024-12-28 05:09:54 +0100 | <geekosaur> | 4GB i'd believe |
2024-12-28 05:09:47 +0100 | <homo> | back then I was doing unity game development and unity was so painfully slow I gave up |
2024-12-28 05:09:10 +0100 | <glguy> | useful thing* |
2024-12-28 05:09:09 +0100 | <homo> | or was it 8GB RAM, I really forgot as I don't have it 2 years already |
2024-12-28 05:09:01 +0100 | <glguy> | It's a useful to not let single events shape your whole reality |
2024-12-28 05:08:49 +0100 | <homo> | it was 64-bit 4GB RAM laptop |
2024-12-28 05:07:31 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> what kind of machine homo ? |
2024-12-28 05:07:23 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
2024-12-28 05:06:58 +0100 | <homo> | I tried vscode once, I just removed 1 character in code and it got frozen for more than minute, couldn't type text at all |
2024-12-28 05:06:39 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I've had electron apps OOM my machine if left running overnight |
2024-12-28 05:06:39 +0100 | <monochrom> | OK, that's just being lame, not horrible. |
2024-12-28 05:06:16 +0100 | <geekosaur> | bloated, slow, leaky JS code, mostly |
2024-12-28 05:05:19 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> so negative! |
2024-12-28 05:05:08 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> electron bad! |
2024-12-28 05:02:52 +0100 | <monochrom> | Sorry, what is wrong with electron apps again? |
2024-12-28 05:01:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | chatgpt. |
2024-12-28 05:01:29 +0100 | <homo> | I don't know which today's trend is the most horrible: electron apps; subscriptions; microsoft recall; microtransactions in games |
2024-12-28 05:00:31 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
2024-12-28 04:59:46 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> probably it would be hard to make more general system though without adding lots of ambiguities |
2024-12-28 04:59:17 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> and that ghc extension seems to require () everywhere |
2024-12-28 04:59:06 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> I mean lack of prefix/postfix except - |
2024-12-28 04:58:42 +0100 | <homo> | also don't forget that most people use windows and macos on desktops even if gnu/linux offers them superior alternatives |
2024-12-28 04:58:16 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> especially the way infix operators are handled |
2024-12-28 04:58:08 +0100 | <geekosaur> | pandoc's actually pretty popular, but hasn't really driven much haskell adoption. then again, nobody cares what language it's written in if they're interacting with a command line program |
2024-12-28 04:57:45 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> but if you use parsec with template haskell probably everything is possible |
2024-12-28 04:57:26 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> homo: I don't think so, basic syntax is pretty restrictive |
2024-12-28 04:57:23 +0100 | <homo> | go empowers important projects, but is not popular |
2024-12-28 04:57:07 +0100 | <geekosaur> | there's at least one BASIC implementation (abusing operators and do notation) |
2024-12-28 04:56:55 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> if it empowers some important projects then it would become more popular |
2024-12-28 04:56:46 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@pa49-199-79-186.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2024-12-28 04:56:38 +0100 | <homo> | hah, you can tell that you can make haskell look like any language because of operators |
2024-12-28 04:56:38 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> but it's not matter of language itself but who uses it. |
2024-12-28 04:55:09 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> especially given libs that overload various weird letter salad as operators. |
2024-12-28 04:55:01 +0100 | Sisyphean | (~Sisyphean@user/Sisyphean) (Quit: Leaving) |
2024-12-28 04:54:29 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> I'm not sure it's cleaner than python. |
2024-12-28 04:54:19 +0100 | <homo> | but there are no aggressive ads for haskell |
2024-12-28 04:54:15 +0100 | talismanick | (~user@2601:644:937c:ed10::ae5) talismanick |
2024-12-28 04:54:10 +0100 | <homo> | on java and c# side too much marketing happenned, and rust is not different in safety propaganda |
2024-12-28 04:53:26 +0100 | <homo> | and haskell doesn't look to them as cleaner version of python... |
2024-12-28 04:52:37 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> I dunno, to me it seems pretty conceptually alien to people who started programming with C/python/basic etc |
2024-12-28 04:52:03 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@pa49-199-79-186.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) housemate |
2024-12-28 04:51:54 +0100 | <homo> | then why haskell is less popular than rust, java, c#? |
2024-12-28 04:51:36 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> all in all there's so much stuff happening there that it's hard to find a single reason |
2024-12-28 04:51:06 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> that's why it's only one of reasons |
2024-12-28 04:50:58 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> Marketing total trash isn't worthwhile in most cases anyway. |
2024-12-28 04:49:57 +0100 | <homo> | but jvm became popular because of marketing |
2024-12-28 04:49:34 +0100 | <homo> | for example, this is why dis is better than jvm https://web.archive.org/web/20240521004107/http://doc.cat-v.org/inferno/4th_edition/dis_VM_design |
2024-12-28 04:49:06 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
2024-12-28 04:48:30 +0100 | <homo> | loonycyborg don't most thing become popular because of marketing? |