2024/12/28

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2024-12-28 05:09:58 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> I guess it was overloaded. I have a couple of terrific daily-use electron apps, but more memory to run them in
2024-12-28 05:09:54 +0100 <geekosaur> 4GB i'd believe
2024-12-28 05:09:47 +0100 <homo> back then I was doing unity game development and unity was so painfully slow I gave up
2024-12-28 05:09:10 +0100 <glguy> useful thing*
2024-12-28 05:09:09 +0100 <homo> or was it 8GB RAM, I really forgot as I don't have it 2 years already
2024-12-28 05:09:01 +0100 <glguy> It's a useful to not let single events shape your whole reality
2024-12-28 05:08:49 +0100 <homo> it was 64-bit 4GB RAM laptop
2024-12-28 05:07:31 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> what kind of machine homo ?
2024-12-28 05:07:23 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2024-12-28 05:06:58 +0100 <homo> I tried vscode once, I just removed 1 character in code and it got frozen for more than minute, couldn't type text at all
2024-12-28 05:06:39 +0100 <geekosaur> I've had electron apps OOM my machine if left running overnight
2024-12-28 05:06:39 +0100 <monochrom> OK, that's just being lame, not horrible.
2024-12-28 05:06:16 +0100 <geekosaur> bloated, slow, leaky JS code, mostly
2024-12-28 05:05:19 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> so negative!
2024-12-28 05:05:08 +0100 <haskellbridge> <sm> electron bad!
2024-12-28 05:02:52 +0100 <monochrom> Sorry, what is wrong with electron apps again?
2024-12-28 05:01:57 +0100 <geekosaur> chatgpt.
2024-12-28 05:01:29 +0100 <homo> I don't know which today's trend is the most horrible: electron apps; subscriptions; microsoft recall; microtransactions in games
2024-12-28 05:00:31 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-12-28 04:59:46 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> probably it would be hard to make more general system though without adding lots of ambiguities
2024-12-28 04:59:17 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> and that ghc extension seems to require () everywhere
2024-12-28 04:59:06 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> I mean lack of prefix/postfix except -
2024-12-28 04:58:42 +0100 <homo> also don't forget that most people use windows and macos on desktops even if gnu/linux offers them superior alternatives
2024-12-28 04:58:16 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> especially the way infix operators are handled
2024-12-28 04:58:08 +0100 <geekosaur> pandoc's actually pretty popular, but hasn't really driven much haskell adoption. then again, nobody cares what language it's written in if they're interacting with a command line program
2024-12-28 04:57:45 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> but if you use parsec with template haskell probably everything is possible
2024-12-28 04:57:26 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> homo: I don't think so, basic syntax is pretty restrictive
2024-12-28 04:57:23 +0100 <homo> go empowers important projects, but is not popular
2024-12-28 04:57:07 +0100 <geekosaur> there's at least one BASIC implementation (abusing operators and do notation)
2024-12-28 04:56:55 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> if it empowers some important projects then it would become more popular
2024-12-28 04:56:46 +0100housemate(~housemate@pa49-199-79-186.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-12-28 04:56:38 +0100 <homo> hah, you can tell that you can make haskell look like any language because of operators
2024-12-28 04:56:38 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> but it's not matter of language itself but who uses it.
2024-12-28 04:55:09 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> especially given libs that overload various weird letter salad as operators.
2024-12-28 04:55:01 +0100Sisyphean(~Sisyphean@user/Sisyphean) (Quit: Leaving)
2024-12-28 04:54:29 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> I'm not sure it's cleaner than python.
2024-12-28 04:54:19 +0100 <homo> but there are no aggressive ads for haskell
2024-12-28 04:54:15 +0100talismanick(~user@2601:644:937c:ed10::ae5) talismanick
2024-12-28 04:54:10 +0100 <homo> on java and c# side too much marketing happenned, and rust is not different in safety propaganda
2024-12-28 04:53:26 +0100 <homo> and haskell doesn't look to them as cleaner version of python...
2024-12-28 04:52:37 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> I dunno, to me it seems pretty conceptually alien to people who started programming with C/python/basic etc
2024-12-28 04:52:03 +0100housemate(~housemate@pa49-199-79-186.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) housemate
2024-12-28 04:51:54 +0100 <homo> then why haskell is less popular than rust, java, c#?
2024-12-28 04:51:36 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> all in all there's so much stuff happening there that it's hard to find a single reason
2024-12-28 04:51:06 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> that's why it's only one of reasons
2024-12-28 04:50:58 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> Marketing total trash isn't worthwhile in most cases anyway.
2024-12-28 04:49:57 +0100 <homo> but jvm became popular because of marketing
2024-12-28 04:49:34 +0100 <homo> for example, this is why dis is better than jvm https://web.archive.org/web/20240521004107/http://doc.cat-v.org/inferno/4th_edition/dis_VM_design
2024-12-28 04:49:06 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2024-12-28 04:48:30 +0100 <homo> loonycyborg don't most thing become popular because of marketing?