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| 2024-12-28 01:43:07 +0100 | <geekosaur> | not very; 2010 only added like two things to H98 (and removed one) |
| 2024-12-28 01:42:44 +0100 | <homo> | it's interesting how much of haskell2010 hugs supports |
| 2024-12-28 01:42:19 +0100 | <homo> | all other extensions that microhs requires are already (partially?) supported by hugs, so there is hope to get better implementation than hugs bootstrappable |
| 2024-12-28 01:41:47 +0100 | euandreh | (~Thunderbi@2804:d59:8929:cc00:c70d:53a7:f44e:6c64) euandreh |
| 2024-12-28 01:41:37 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Oh it has fundeps https://www.haskell.org/hugs/pages/hugsman/exts.html |
| 2024-12-28 01:41:26 +0100 | <homo> | I want to bootstrap microhs from hugs and it requires bangpatterns, I would rather not remove bangpatterns from microhs's source |
| 2024-12-28 01:41:25 +0100 | <monochrom> | Oh, bang pattern is a cross-cutting concern, yeah. |
| 2024-12-28 01:41:00 +0100 | IamPyu | (~IamPyu@user/IamPyu) IamPyu |
| 2024-12-28 01:41:00 +0100 | IamPyu | (~IamPyu@static209-34-105-235.r.rev.accesscomm.ca) (Changing host) |
| 2024-12-28 01:41:00 +0100 | IamPyu | (~IamPyu@static209-34-105-235.r.rev.accesscomm.ca) |
| 2024-12-28 01:40:51 +0100 | <homo> | it is hard for me to understand source code of hugs, I am trying to patch src/parser.y in order to add bangpatterns, but it appears I cannot add them in one short line :( |
| 2024-12-28 01:40:45 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (well, you can also do it with associated type families, but Hugs definitely doesn't have those) |
| 2024-12-28 01:40:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | pretty sure it had both MPTC and fundeps (which are pretty much mandatory to make MPTC usable) |
| 2024-12-28 01:39:41 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> I don't remember Hugs having fundeps, lemme check |
| 2024-12-28 01:39:28 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> I think it is related to MPTC and overlapping instances |
| 2024-12-28 01:39:05 +0100 | <geekosaur> | they're more or less prolog in haskell's type system |
| 2024-12-28 01:38:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | wouldn't have been related to functional dependencies, would it? |
| 2024-12-28 01:38:42 +0100 | <Zenen> | [rationality intensifies] |
| 2024-12-28 01:38:24 +0100 | <homo> | prolog implemented in haskell... |
| 2024-12-28 01:38:17 +0100 | <homo> | while digging hugs's source code, I was surprised to find it contains implementation of prolog |
| 2024-12-28 01:36:10 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2024-12-28 01:35:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | #haskell:matrix.org was linked on freenode but declined to re-establish the link on libera, as I said earlier |
| 2024-12-28 01:35:10 +0100 | OftenFaded | (~OftenFade@user/tisktisk) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2024-12-28 01:34:56 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but the link for *this* room is https://matrix.to/#/%23haskell-irc%3Amatrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=kf8nh.com&via=kde.org |
| 2024-12-28 01:34:32 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it does |
| 2024-12-28 01:33:41 +0100 | <OftenFaded> | works for me! merci! |
| 2024-12-28 01:33:30 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) vanishingideal |
| 2024-12-28 01:33:02 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> #haskell:matrix.org (https://matrix.to/#/#haskell:matrix.org) this? I wonder if IRC displays it properly lol |
| 2024-12-28 01:31:43 +0100 | <OftenFaded> | Need to leave soon folks, does anyone have a matrix room link by chance? |
| 2024-12-28 01:29:33 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@dynamic-176-006-141-001.176.6.pool.telefonica.de) |
| 2024-12-28 01:29:28 +0100 | iteratee | (~kyle@162.218.222.207) iteratee |
| 2024-12-28 01:29:16 +0100 | iteratee | (~kyle@162.218.222.207) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-12-28 01:28:59 +0100 | <OftenFaded> | jeebus is truth evolution is black magic |
| 2024-12-28 01:28:57 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
| 2024-12-28 01:28:30 +0100 | <OftenFaded> | superb counterpoint I can't argue with at all |
| 2024-12-28 01:28:08 +0100 | <homo> | OftenFaded don't know what you are talking about, in my experience school youth is poisoned with close-minded hateful christianity |
| 2024-12-28 01:27:48 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> only on effort put in |
| 2024-12-28 01:27:42 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> though anyone can do their learning and result doesn't depend on whether it's in academia or not |
| 2024-12-28 01:26:13 +0100 | <homo> | loonycyborg you forgot about narcissism |
| 2024-12-28 01:25:48 +0100 | <monochrom> | Haskell doesn't have their polymorphism. Haskell has the opposite kind. |
| 2024-12-28 01:25:41 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> with at least lies of omission |
| 2024-12-28 01:25:33 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> if they rely on trade secrets and the like to get ahead of competition then of course they would have to lie a lot |
| 2024-12-28 01:24:35 +0100 | <monochrom> | Maybe not very generalizable to other disciplines, but in the context of PL, you can count on academia being honest about complexity, and you can count on self-identified "practical" people being liars hiding their complexities and denying that they have made footguns. |
| 2024-12-28 01:24:04 +0100 | <OftenFaded> | lots of 'woke cultural marxists poisoning the youth with gender theories' and whatnot |
| 2024-12-28 01:23:58 +0100 | <homo> | I was taught that OOP has 4 pillars: abstraction, encapsulation, polymorphism and inheritance, name one pillar that haskell doesn't have |
| 2024-12-28 01:23:35 +0100 | <OftenFaded> | academia doesn't have the best image currently |
| 2024-12-28 01:22:21 +0100 | <homo> | funny enough I see haskell as OOP |
| 2024-12-28 01:21:50 +0100 | <monochrom> | Also what's wrong with being academic? OOP started out as purely academic, too. So what. |
| 2024-12-28 01:21:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> I tend to see monads as something like Command pattern |
| 2024-12-28 01:21:34 +0100 | emmanuelux | (~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux) emmanuelux |