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2024-12-27 18:11:16 +0100 <kuribas> Guess I am missing the relevant backlog?
2024-12-27 18:10:04 +0100 <haskellbridge> <hellwolf> no, it's simply not the way you should use State Monad. I don't find the type synonym of reader monad problematic, so far.
2024-12-27 18:09:18 +0100 <kuribas> There is no need for it, if you want it, better use Reader.
2024-12-27 18:08:58 +0100 <kuribas> Which should be abolished IMO.
2024-12-27 18:08:51 +0100 <kuribas> I bet if you get obscure behaviour, it's because of the (->) r monad.
2024-12-27 18:08:17 +0100 <kuribas> well, replicateM better.
2024-12-27 18:08:08 +0100 <kuribas> oh, you want sequence . map...
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2024-12-27 18:00:09 +0100 <lambdabot> Expected type: State s (t a)
2024-12-27 18:00:09 +0100 <lambdabot> • Couldn't match type ‘[]’ with ‘StateT s Identity’
2024-12-27 18:00:09 +0100 <lambdabot> error:
2024-12-27 18:00:07 +0100 <kuribas> > runState $ sequence (traverse (\x -> state $ \y -> (x + y, x + y)) [1, 2, 3])
2024-12-27 17:59:53 +0100 <lambdabot> (Traversable t, MonadState a t, Num a) => [t a]
2024-12-27 17:59:43 +0100 <kuribas> :t sequence (traverse (\x -> state $ \y -> (x + y, x + y)) [1, 2, 3])
2024-12-27 17:59:42 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-12-27 17:58:14 +0100 <kuribas> What's *wrong* about sequence . traverse ?
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2024-12-27 17:48:00 +0100 <haskellbridge> <hellwolf> sequence . mapM state monads is wrong.
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2024-12-27 17:40:23 +0100 <kuribas> haskellbridge: what was the mistake?
2024-12-27 17:40:04 +0100 <kuribas> (-> r a)
2024-12-27 17:39:50 +0100 <kuribas> For example, the newtype-less reader Monad should not exist IMO.
2024-12-27 17:39:33 +0100 <geekosaur> Agda or Idris2 would get you closer, but still not there
2024-12-27 17:39:18 +0100 <kuribas> I find "unintended behaviour" is often a result of too much Polymorphism.
2024-12-27 17:38:36 +0100 <haskellbridge> <hellwolf> I agree. It only makes me think how it is possible to make such a mistake unrepresentable, without bringing all the bazookas in.