2024/12/24

Newest at the top

2024-12-24 02:23:24 +0100__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2024-12-24 02:21:51 +0100weary-traveler(~user@user/user363627) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-12-24 02:19:35 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2024-12-24 02:19:01 +0100j1n37(~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37
2024-12-24 02:18:24 +0100 <loonycyborg> ye I want to build mapping at compile time but make runtime structures based on it
2024-12-24 02:16:37 +0100 <EvanR> or so I thought
2024-12-24 02:16:26 +0100 <EvanR> it's not at runtime
2024-12-24 02:16:09 +0100 <loonycyborg> at least at runtime
2024-12-24 02:15:57 +0100 <loonycyborg> ye but avoiding traversal of whole list would be nice
2024-12-24 02:15:55 +0100j1n37(~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2024-12-24 02:14:57 +0100 <EvanR> if you literally don't care about order, then a list still works
2024-12-24 02:14:52 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-12-24 02:14:21 +0100 <EvanR> but a list is probably the most realistic
2024-12-24 02:14:07 +0100 <EvanR> if you're feeling nuts you might have success implementing a binary tree in the type system which serves the same purpose
2024-12-24 02:14:03 +0100 <loonycyborg> at *compile time
2024-12-24 02:13:56 +0100acidjnk_new(~acidjnk@p200300d6e7283f25e9e9d221c37061e3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2024-12-24 02:13:53 +0100son0p(~ff@186.121.100.67) son0p
2024-12-24 02:13:53 +0100 <loonycyborg> I was thinking to use array at runtime and calculate indices for it at runtime
2024-12-24 02:13:30 +0100ljdarj(~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2024-12-24 02:13:20 +0100 <EvanR> similar to KnownNat
2024-12-24 02:13:19 +0100 <geekosaur> also Haskell's type system isn't really up to things like hashmaps; the best it can do is linked lists
2024-12-24 02:13:13 +0100 <EvanR> KnownSymbol lets you have the corresponding String at runtime
2024-12-24 02:12:11 +0100poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2024-12-24 02:11:58 +0100 <geekosaur> ("dependent types" = types that depend on runtime values, not just the other way around)
2024-12-24 02:11:27 +0100 <geekosaur> you really want Idris or Agda; Haskell doesn't have a real dependent types story as yet
2024-12-24 02:11:03 +0100 <geekosaur> KnownSymbol and singletons (blech)
2024-12-24 02:10:37 +0100acidjnk_new3(~acidjnk@p200300d6e7283f41b013a429fe4b7686.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2024-12-24 02:08:51 +0100poscat0x04(~poscat@user/poscat) (Quit: Bye)
2024-12-24 02:08:11 +0100 <loonycyborg> this really reminds me of C++ template magic though
2024-12-24 02:08:11 +0100Feuermagier(~Feuermagi@user/feuermagier) Feuermagier
2024-12-24 02:08:09 +0100tnt1(~Thunderbi@user/tnt1) tnt1
2024-12-24 02:07:55 +0100Feuermagier(~Feuermagi@user/feuermagier) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2024-12-24 02:07:45 +0100tnt1(~Thunderbi@user/tnt1) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2024-12-24 02:06:24 +0100 <loonycyborg> or how I can extract things back to runtime when needed
2024-12-24 02:06:09 +0100 <loonycyborg> Seems I can use string literals at compile time with -XDataKinds and -XTypeFamilies but not sure if it's best way currently
2024-12-24 02:03:23 +0100 <loonycyborg> I was thinking more of " I don't care about order so I can do hashmap" but not sure how it applies to compile-time
2024-12-24 02:03:19 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2024-12-24 02:00:50 +0100 <EvanR> the first ones easier
2024-12-24 02:00:42 +0100Feuermagier_Feuermagier
2024-12-24 02:00:42 +0100Guest7514(~Feuermagi@user/feuermagier) (Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services)))
2024-12-24 02:00:42 +0100Feuermagier_(~Feuermagi@user/feuermagier) Feuermagier
2024-12-24 02:00:42 +0100FeuermagierGuest7514
2024-12-24 02:00:31 +0100 <EvanR> there's "I don't care about order" and "we need the types to enforce nobody not even god can care about order"
2024-12-24 01:59:24 +0100 <EvanR> yes the string itself is a type of kind Symbol
2024-12-24 01:57:12 +0100Feuermagier_Feuermagier
2024-12-24 01:57:12 +0100Guest5199(~Feuermagi@user/feuermagier) (Killed (lead.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services)))
2024-12-24 01:57:12 +0100FeuermagierGuest5199
2024-12-24 01:57:12 +0100Feuermagier_(~Feuermagi@user/feuermagier) Feuermagier
2024-12-24 01:57:02 +0100 <monochrom> GHC has type-level string literals.
2024-12-24 01:57:02 +0100Guest78(~Guest78@2a02:8084:1:6500::db) (Quit: Client closed)