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| 2024-11-14 21:03:27 +0100 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@193.32.248.167) ash3en |
| 2024-11-14 21:02:40 +0100 | <lxsameer> | c_wraith: ahh I see. I use nix with cabal, the good thing is I use nix packages and it's pretty fast |
| 2024-11-14 21:02:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (consider that a solver in thsi case is a constraint satisfaction solver, so yes, it's pretty slow) |
| 2024-11-14 21:02:00 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@da7f-daa3-a2f4-21df-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) hellwolf |
| 2024-11-14 21:01:58 +0100 | <geekosaur> | stack is much faster because instead of using a solver it gets fixed versions from the snapshot and `extra-deps` |
| 2024-11-14 21:01:56 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@da7f-daa3-a2f4-21df-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) () |
| 2024-11-14 21:01:31 +0100 | <geekosaur> | cabal rebuilds on first run and when the script changes. sadly its solver is really slow; people are working on that, though |
| 2024-11-14 21:01:02 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@da7f-daa3-a2f4-21df-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) hellwolf |
| 2024-11-14 21:01:00 +0100 | <c_wraith> | (Not helped by attempting to use NixOS at one of the few times it actually was installing broken stuff. Not fair, but I still associate that experience with nix) |
| 2024-11-14 21:00:57 +0100 | <lxsameer> | c_wraith: how come? |
| 2024-11-14 21:00:44 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@da7f-daa3-a2f4-21df-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) (Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 29.4) |
| 2024-11-14 21:00:43 +0100 | caconym | (~caconym@user/caconym) caconym |
| 2024-11-14 21:00:03 +0100 | caconym | (~caconym@user/caconym) (Quit: bye) |
| 2024-11-14 21:00:02 +0100 | <c_wraith> | I like the theory, but every time I've tried to use it it's been immensely more complexity than benefit |
| 2024-11-14 20:59:45 +0100 | <lxsameer> | * use nix |
| 2024-11-14 20:59:37 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2024-11-14 20:57:56 +0100 | <lxsameer> | why don't you folks nix? out of curiosity |
| 2024-11-14 20:57:14 +0100 | sprotte24 | (~sprotte24@p200300d16f0f4e0080b9b718c313bb1e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2024-11-14 20:55:58 +0100 | <hellwolf> | that'd be even more "script-ish" |
| 2024-11-14 20:55:50 +0100 | <hellwolf> | Cabal scripts is convenient, you just need to be aware of the junks it leave behind: ~/.cabal/script-builds/. I wish it has a convenient way of running the script in interpreting mode though, without creating any artifacts. |
| 2024-11-14 20:54:39 +0100 | shapr | (~user@2601:19c:417e:5434:4627:df70:3bf6:c2cb) (Quit: walkies) |
| 2024-11-14 20:54:01 +0100 | chexum | (~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/chexum) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-14 20:53:46 +0100 | mantraofpie_ | mantraofpie |
| 2024-11-14 20:53:30 +0100 | chexum_ | (~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/chexum) chexum |
| 2024-11-14 20:53:26 +0100 | mantraofpie | (~mantraofp@user/mantraofpie) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-14 20:52:48 +0100 | <c_wraith> | I may need to look into using the partial-hackage-mirror script in the cache as well. |
| 2024-11-14 20:52:46 +0100 | CoolMa7 | (~CoolMa7@ip5f5b8957.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) CoolMa7 |
| 2024-11-14 20:52:31 +0100 | mantraofpie_ | (~mantraofp@user/mantraofpie) mantraofpie |
| 2024-11-14 20:52:30 +0100 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-11-14 20:52:06 +0100 | ljdarj1 | ljdarj |
| 2024-11-14 20:52:06 +0100 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2024-11-14 20:51:08 +0100 | <shapr> | tiny blog post: https://www.scannedinavian.com/how-to-run-haskell-source-files-like-shell-scripts.html |
| 2024-11-14 20:50:47 +0100 | <c_wraith> | I recently made my CI cache the cabal index as well as built packages. Turns out it can load from the cache *marginally* faster than from hackage. |
| 2024-11-14 20:48:35 +0100 | ljdarj1 | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
| 2024-11-14 20:47:03 +0100 | <shapr> | So far, only problem is that using cabal as the interpreter directive takes about two minutes on first run, ouch |
| 2024-11-14 20:46:32 +0100 | <lxsameer> | I just found out about bluefin, and omg it's much much clearer that effectful for me, kudos!!! |
| 2024-11-14 20:40:17 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hackage is immutable append-only storage |
| 2024-11-14 20:39:58 +0100 | <geekosaur> | even those are on hackage, just flagged as deprecated |
| 2024-11-14 20:31:55 +0100 | <c_wraith> | ... give or take some that had security issues so bad it was determined no one should ever use that version |
| 2024-11-14 20:25:15 +0100 | <sm> | sure.. all old versions are stored on hackage |
| 2024-11-14 20:18:44 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@146.70.66.228) (Max SendQ exceeded) |
| 2024-11-14 20:18:30 +0100 | Lestat9 | (~Admin1@47.203.239.77) (K-Lined) |
| 2024-11-14 20:17:04 +0100 | <hellwolf> | basic question regarding cabal... if you specify a version that is not the "HEAD" of the package, would cabal be able to retrieve it from somewhere still? |
| 2024-11-14 20:16:38 +0100 | hellwolf | (~user@da7f-daa3-a2f4-21df-0f00-4d40-07d0-2001.sta.estpak.ee) hellwolf |
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