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| 2024-11-08 17:53:53 +0100 | <yin> | but i completely accept that people find it useful |
| 2024-11-08 17:53:33 +0100 | <yin> | i think that if i get myself into a place where optics would make thing easier, it's because i'm doing something wrong. structured the program the wrong way or something like that |
| 2024-11-08 17:53:20 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@77.22.252.56) |
| 2024-11-08 17:53:02 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@dynamic-176-007-148-106.176.7.pool.telefonica.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-11-08 17:51:46 +0100 | <yin> | that starts getting into the dozen paragraphs i can't commit to writing right now |
| 2024-11-08 17:50:15 +0100 | willscripted | (~willscrip@user/willscripted) willscripted |
| 2024-11-08 17:49:59 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
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| 2024-11-08 17:48:28 +0100 | <EvanR> | I guess I heard of this or that "lens that's not a true lens" or something |
| 2024-11-08 17:47:52 +0100 | <EvanR> | leaky abstractions? in optics? |
| 2024-11-08 17:46:47 +0100 | <yin> | apart from introducing complexity, hard to reason about performance penalties and arguably inevitably leaky abstractions, which i guess you can say still belongs to the realm of stylistic preference, i think it goes against one of the main reasons why *I* choose to use Haskell, which is managing complexity and making things more maintainable (for some definition of maintainable) |
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| 2024-11-08 17:43:09 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2024-11-08 17:32:20 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
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| 2024-11-08 17:32:03 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> yin "mostly" implies that you have non-stylistic arguments too, what are they? |
| 2024-11-08 17:31:19 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-08 17:27:24 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn |
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| 2024-11-08 17:21:38 +0100 | <merijn> | I mean, I rarely use optics, but sometimes they just make things infinitely easier :) |
| 2024-11-08 17:19:38 +0100 | <yin> | merijn: i could write a dozen paragraphs about it but it all comes down to personal stylistic preferences (mostly) |
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