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2024-11-07 11:46:28 +0100tomsmedingdoesn't know much about idris
2024-11-07 11:46:17 +0100 <kuribas> idris has a proof search algorithm, but it's also fragile.
2024-11-07 11:45:23 +0100 <tomsmeding> agda-presburger can do it but it's doubly-exponential so it runs out of memory once you have 8 variables in your formula
2024-11-07 11:44:58 +0100 <tomsmeding> and for inequalities, well, you're on your own with the basic lemmas
2024-11-07 11:44:49 +0100 <tomsmeding> there is an integer _equality_ solver in agda-stdlib, but you have to explicitly write out the equality that you want it to solve
2024-11-07 11:44:42 +0100 <kuribas> ah right :)
2024-11-07 11:43:53 +0100 <tomsmeding> and 'omega' is not considered "fancy" in coq world
2024-11-07 11:43:16 +0100 <tomsmeding> kuribas: I meant "no automation", but that's indeed not strictly true. 'auto' is useful for constructing simple lambda calculus terms, but it's multiple leagues below e.g. coq's 'omega' which just solves integer arithmetic stuff for you
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2024-11-07 11:26:27 +0100 <kuribas> tomsmeding: did you mean there is no automation, or that "absent" is an automation feature?
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2024-11-07 11:19:39 +0100 <kuribas> tomsmeding: what about this? https://agda.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tools/auto.html
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2024-11-07 10:40:30 +0100 <tomsmeding> but contrary to Coq, Agda has readable syntax
2024-11-07 10:40:10 +0100 <tomsmeding> Coq has fairly good automation, not familiar with HOL; Agda has ~absent automation