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| 2024-11-05 17:43:52 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> which makes them complicated |
| 2024-11-05 17:43:13 +0100 | <dolio> | Doesn't really seem like a claim that C is better on its own merits. Just that there's some complicated system being used that's written in C and not Haskell. |
| 2024-11-05 17:41:48 +0100 | <merijn> | Leonard26: I mean, I have written quite a lot of C/C++ professionally and I'm pretty sure I never wrote anything over 100 lines that didn't have at least several potential bugs in it despite my paranoia :p |
| 2024-11-05 17:40:45 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 2024-11-05 17:40:40 +0100 | <c_wraith> | It's tempting, until you see all the bugs related to subtracting size_t values! |
| 2024-11-05 17:40:37 +0100 | <Leonard26> | Well, now I'm feeling relieved! :') |
| 2024-11-05 17:40:19 +0100 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) (Quit: JuanDaugherty) |
| 2024-11-05 17:40:13 +0100 | <merijn> | c_wraith: Just use unsigned :p |
| 2024-11-05 17:38:50 +0100 | <c_wraith> | You have to make simplifying assumptions before you know that adding two ints together is safe. |
| 2024-11-05 17:37:56 +0100 | <c_wraith> | As far as I can tell, C makes it almost impossible to not shoot yourself in the foot. |
| 2024-11-05 17:37:10 +0100 | <kuribas> | It's good to know a bit of all, basics of C, functional programming in haskell, ... |
| 2024-11-05 17:35:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | <-- longtime C programmer |
| 2024-11-05 17:35:12 +0100 | <geekosaur> | C has its own problems, mostly that it won't stop you from shooting yourself in the foot |
| 2024-11-05 17:33:20 +0100 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@146.70.124.222) ash3en |
| 2024-11-05 17:33:10 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2024-11-05 17:32:06 +0100 | <Leonard26> | I'm fairly new to coding, to be honest now that I'm here I'm thinking it would have been better if I started with C in the first place because the language bindings are such hell sometimes, but at the time I didn't really know where to begin with, so now I'm just trying to finish this project in Haskell and move on :] |
| 2024-11-05 17:29:00 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@77.22.252.56) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2024-11-05 17:26:24 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2024-11-05 17:25:02 +0100 | <institor> | i will shut up now |
| 2024-11-05 17:24:57 +0100 | <institor> | eh maybe i don't mean pointfree |
| 2024-11-05 17:24:41 +0100 | <institor> | s/lazy/too lazy |
| 2024-11-05 17:24:34 +0100 | <institor> | i suppose i am just lazy to find pointfree solutions |
| 2024-11-05 17:24:30 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@77.22.252.56) |
| 2024-11-05 17:24:15 +0100 | <institor> | in any case i also use it liberally myself |
| 2024-11-05 17:24:13 +0100 | euleritian | (~euleritia@dynamic-176-006-148-028.176.6.pool.telefonica.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-11-05 17:24:09 +0100 | <institor> | maybe |
| 2024-11-05 17:23:59 +0100 | <merijn> | Just not for gaining understanding of what you're doing if you don't already know :) |
| 2024-11-05 17:23:44 +0100 | <merijn> | I *love* do notation, it's amazing |
| 2024-11-05 17:23:32 +0100 | <merijn> | I disagree with that, tbh |
| 2024-11-05 17:23:27 +0100 | <institor> | it suggests there is too much orchestration going on |
| 2024-11-05 17:23:21 +0100 | <institor> | in fact i usually consider do notation a mild code smell |
| 2024-11-05 17:23:02 +0100 | <institor> | i agree with merijn |
| 2024-11-05 17:22:51 +0100 | <institor> | sorry, i don't believe in copy/paste |
| 2024-11-05 17:22:44 +0100 | <institor> | s/putSTr/putStr |
| 2024-11-05 17:22:40 +0100 | <institor> | putStr "Enter name: " >> getLine >>= (\name -> putStrLn $ "Hello " ++ name) |
| 2024-11-05 17:22:13 +0100 | <merijn> | In fact, for educational purposes I would recommend avoiding do notation |
| 2024-11-05 17:22:09 +0100 | <institor> | desugars to |
| 2024-11-05 17:22:07 +0100 | <institor> | putStrLn $ "Hello " ++ name |
| 2024-11-05 17:22:00 +0100 | <institor> | name <- getLine |
| 2024-11-05 17:21:56 +0100 | <institor> | putSTr "Enter name: " |
| 2024-11-05 17:21:51 +0100 | <institor> | foo = do |
| 2024-11-05 17:21:47 +0100 | <institor> | foo :: IO () |
| 2024-11-05 17:19:25 +0100 | <institor> | as a synopsis |
| 2024-11-05 17:19:22 +0100 | <institor> | Leonard26: you would do well to understand how `do` notation desugars into the bind operator |
| 2024-11-05 17:19:02 +0100 | <institor> | Leonard26: then they are only in scope in `main` |
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| 2024-11-05 17:11:54 +0100 | spew | (~spew@155.133.15.183) spew |
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| 2024-11-05 17:07:49 +0100 | ZLima12 | (~zlima12@user/meow/ZLima12) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-11-05 17:04:45 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |