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2026-03-10 13:50:08 +0100 <Freakie> I hope it doesn't sound like I'm being difficult, I'm just working with a lot of constraints (albeit intentioanlly)
2026-03-10 13:49:17 +0100 <Freakie> at which point in-memory sharing is also problematic
2026-03-10 13:48:56 +0100 <Freakie> the same problem can be moved to cache level
2026-03-10 13:48:36 +0100 <Freakie> the point is more that the whole model of computation i'm working with only counts I/O operations as costful, hence *in theory* pointer sharing is problematic
2026-03-10 13:47:54 +0100 <Freakie> it would problem be something like that if I get that far
2026-03-10 13:46:55 +0100 <comerijn> Why not give your data a Storable instance and just allocate blocks of memory explicitly
2026-03-10 13:46:39 +0100 <Freakie> well technically it would only matter once data needs to be pushed to the disk
2026-03-10 13:46:30 +0100 <comerijn> *that
2026-03-10 13:46:27 +0100 <comerijn> At the point why not take an entirely different approach
2026-03-10 13:46:12 +0100m1dnight_(~m1dnight@141.134.26.23) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2026-03-10 13:46:05 +0100 <Freakie> it's nothing to do with referential transparency and everything to do with data locality
2026-03-10 13:45:53 +0100 <Freakie> I'm trying to work with I/O efficient algorithms and sharing can imply page faults
2026-03-10 13:45:48 +0100 <comerijn> Freakie: In an immutable setting, how do you think you could possibly observe whether something is shared?
2026-03-10 13:45:16 +0100 <comerijn> sharing or not sharing is not obsevable
2026-03-10 13:45:12 +0100 <Freakie> it seems counterintuitive but it's a pretty essential part (at least if the algorithms actually manage to scale to the problem sizes they want toa ddress)
2026-03-10 13:44:45 +0100 <Freakie> yes but sharing is a problem in theory for what the algorithms need to do
2026-03-10 13:44:31 +0100 <comerijn> A compact region is not mutable
2026-03-10 13:44:13 +0100 <comerijn> Data is immutable
2026-03-10 13:44:09 +0100 <comerijn> Freakie: deep copying question makes no sense
2026-03-10 13:43:25 +0100 <Freakie> (it's desired in what I'm trying to do)
2026-03-10 13:43:16 +0100 <Freakie> do you know if the compact regions are deep copied?
2026-03-10 13:42:51 +0100 <Freakie> and then sorting them lazily (i.e. when you actually need to traverse said level)
2026-03-10 13:42:24 +0100 <Freakie> otherwise I was planning on using the levelwise layout of the BDD to separate the closest data (for example what needs to be processed on the current and next level) from the priority queue itself
2026-03-10 13:41:02 +0100 <Freakie> maybe a compact PQ could help but then I suppose the region will just keep growing till the algorithm is done?