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2024-10-09 12:18:49 +0200 <Rembane> dir() <3
2024-10-09 12:18:25 +0200 <kuribas> The debugability of python is nice though, but very slow...
2024-10-09 12:16:35 +0200 <tomsmeding> I see
2024-10-09 12:16:29 +0200 <kuribas> And it's passed to __getitem__
2024-10-09 12:16:13 +0200 <kuribas> The syntax creates a splice object. So in the end it's just sugar.
2024-10-09 12:15:36 +0200 <tomsmeding> ah
2024-10-09 12:15:26 +0200 <kuribas> splicing is just a special dunder method I think.
2024-10-09 12:14:51 +0200 <tomsmeding> *syntax
2024-10-09 12:14:48 +0200 <tomsmeding> but I guess it's also impossible to properly describe python's fancy s(p)licing syntac
2024-10-09 12:14:32 +0200 <tomsmeding> I would categorise that under "not expressive enough"
2024-10-09 12:14:23 +0200 <kuribas> Which would be possible in haskell or idris.
2024-10-09 12:14:11 +0200 <kuribas> And they cannot capture the fact "I have a column with name 'foobar' and type 'int'"
2024-10-09 12:14:08 +0200 <tomsmeding> I see
2024-10-09 12:13:45 +0200 <kuribas> tomsmeding: it's not expressive enough. There are actually type annotations for pandas. They often don't work well.
2024-10-09 12:10:33 +0200CiaoSen(~Jura@2a05:5800:2e5:2400:ca4b:d6ff:fec1:99da) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2024-10-09 12:08:18 +0200 <tomsmeding> or is the type system not expressive enough for that
2024-10-09 12:08:07 +0200 <tomsmeding> kuribas: I am not at all familiar with that space, but given that there are (external) type checkers for python, would someone not have contrived some external typing annotations for pandas or something?
2024-10-09 12:07:21 +0200hseg(~gesh@46.120.20.246)
2024-10-09 12:00:48 +0200 <kuribas> But I'd say for a long running service, haskell would be a better choice than Python.
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2024-10-09 11:50:01 +0200 <kuribas> Of course the chance to get anyone on board with using idris or haskell in my company would be close to 0%
2024-10-09 11:49:07 +0200 <kuribas> Or even to idris2.
2024-10-09 11:49:00 +0200 <kuribas> We could easily port the polars dataframe library to haskell, with some typesafe wrapper on top.
2024-10-09 11:48:05 +0200 <kuribas> I wish there was more data science on haskell. The time I spend debugging pandas issues with missing indices etc would not have been there with a typed dataframes.
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