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2024-10-06 16:11:01 +0200 <tomsmeding> depends on the application
2024-10-06 16:10:54 +0200 <tomsmeding> *-t
2024-10-06 16:10:50 +0200 <tomsmeding> for programming in haskell specifically, apart from enjoyment: haskell is better at some tasks, Rust is better at others, C++ even has some tasks it's better at (if only for library suppor)
2024-10-06 16:10:06 +0200 <tomsmeding> just for having more ways of looking at a problem
2024-10-06 16:09:57 +0200 <tomsmeding> Guest6817: the paradigm shift is the thing that will _help_ you -- as in, learning to program in this different paradigm will make you a better programmer even in other languages
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2024-10-06 16:05:15 +0200 <geekosaur> but popularity and even direct usage don't tell the whole story. secretly, haskell's conquests are from within: more and more languages are sprouting things taken from it
2024-10-06 16:04:27 +0200 <geekosaur> practically? it certainly is used, although it's no JS in terms of popularity
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2024-10-06 15:55:18 +0200DigitteknohippieDigit
2024-10-06 15:54:19 +0200 <yushyin> Guest6817: maybe a bit outdated overview, but might give you an overall impression https://github.com/Gabriella439/post-rfc/blob/main/sotu.md
2024-10-06 15:50:56 +0200merijn(~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-10-06 15:50:47 +0200 <lxsameer> tomsmeding: cheers
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2024-10-06 15:48:45 +0200 <Guest6817> How's the Haskell external library support? Good enough for (most) random things I wanna do with Haskell?
2024-10-06 15:46:58 +0200 <Guest6817> So all in all, other than the scary learning cliff that Haskell has, nothing should bother me if I actually learn it well
2024-10-06 15:46:18 +0200 <identity> any tool will hinder you if you don't know which way to hold it
2024-10-06 15:45:53 +0200 <identity> Guest6817: haskell-specific parts will only hinder you while you are unfamiliar with them
2024-10-06 15:44:59 +0200 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> haskell will fix your marriage
2024-10-06 15:43:31 +0200 <yushyin> rust has some influences from haskell and other funcprog languages, so you might even recognize some parts of that while learning haskell
2024-10-06 15:43:11 +0200 <Guest6817> The only concern I had till now is whether any part of the Haskell (the immutability, everything as functions, the arcane things called 'monads' or whatever they're called) will hinder me in working on a problem where a imperative language wouldn't?
2024-10-06 15:40:58 +0200 <Lears> Guest6817: Learning a new language (Haskell) as opposed to another dialect of a language you already know (C, Rust, etc) will be a lot harder. It will also be much more fun and rewarding.
2024-10-06 15:40:42 +0200 <Guest6817> 'Alienation' is actually a great term to describe how I feel looking at some of the past codes I've written
2024-10-06 15:40:41 +0200 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> gaze at the masses of programmers, typing away. one asks: how can they be so close to this thing that they call their life's work, yet at the same time be so far from it?
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2024-10-06 15:39:57 +0200 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> constantly living in a state of alienation from the very thing you spent hours working on