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2024-11-05 20:00:55 +0100 <tomsmeding> dolio: I suppose you have a physical copy? With a digital one, I would search for the quoted "a computation involving unsigned operands can never overflow"
2024-11-05 19:59:55 +0100 <dolio> I think that's probably the one I have, but they only appear to cite the entire document.
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2024-11-05 19:50:29 +0100 <tomsmeding> it refers to C11
2024-11-05 19:50:25 +0100 <tomsmeding> the wikipedia article has a citation, perhaps that helps?
2024-11-05 19:50:14 +0100 <dolio> I probably don't know what term to search for.
2024-11-05 19:49:55 +0100 <tomsmeding> dolio++ for even trying
2024-11-05 19:49:25 +0100 <dolio> I tried to look in my copy of the standard, but it's hard to find stuff in there.
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2024-11-05 18:14:50 +0100 <tomsmeding> now I'm aware that wikipedia is not a definitive source :)
2024-11-05 18:14:42 +0100 <tomsmeding> wikipedia agrees with me (last paragraph of the introduction) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_overflow
2024-11-05 18:14:36 +0100Pozyomka(~pyon@user/pyon) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2024-11-05 18:13:24 +0100 <tomsmeding> and I'm fairly sure that it's actually _defined_ to wrap, not only implementation-defined
2024-11-05 18:13:08 +0100 <c_wraith> in all cases it *is* defined!
2024-11-05 18:13:03 +0100 <tomsmeding> (certainly not saturating because then the common implementations would be wrong)
2024-11-05 18:12:45 +0100 <tomsmeding> for regular old unsigned types, it's wrapping
2024-11-05 18:12:32 +0100 <c_wraith> I can't remember if C defines the results as wrapping, saturating, or makes it implementation-defined
2024-11-05 18:11:43 +0100 <tomsmeding> so what did you mean with "implementation-defined"?
2024-11-05 18:11:28 +0100 <tomsmeding> okay sure
2024-11-05 18:11:23 +0100 <c_wraith> yeah