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| 2024-09-25 13:19:22 +0200 | kalj | (~kalj@h-158-174-207-174.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) kalj |
| 2024-09-25 13:09:21 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:bae7:541b:79b5:8d8e) |
| 2024-09-25 13:01:40 +0200 | lucy | (~lucy@user/lucy) lucy |
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| 2024-09-25 12:57:45 +0200 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-09-25 12:57:17 +0200 | kuribas | (~user@ip-188-118-57-242.reverse.destiny.be) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
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| 2024-09-25 12:54:15 +0200 | turlando | (~turlando@user/turlando) () |
| 2024-09-25 12:53:25 +0200 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2024-09-25 12:52:40 +0200 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) |
| 2024-09-25 12:47:13 +0200 | lucy_ | (~lucy@user/lucy) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2024-09-25 12:45:44 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-09-25 12:44:34 +0200 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a05:5800:215:5700:ca4b:d6ff:fec1:99da) CiaoSen |
| 2024-09-25 12:43:16 +0200 | <Inst> | i mean in the output |
| 2024-09-25 12:43:12 +0200 | <Inst> | needs parens |
| 2024-09-25 12:42:25 +0200 | <ski> | (`trace` ()) |
| 2024-09-25 12:42:04 +0200 | Smiles | (uid551636@id-551636.lymington.irccloud.com) Smiles |
| 2024-09-25 12:41:30 +0200 | <Inst> | whoops, it's a bug :( |
| 2024-09-25 12:40:48 +0200 | <Inst> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/0cihXTeH |
| 2024-09-25 12:30:19 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2024-09-25 12:29:45 +0200 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-09-25 12:25:18 +0200 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-09-25 12:23:03 +0200 | migas977 | (~migas@static.140.65.63.178.clients.your-server.de) |
| 2024-09-25 12:22:44 +0200 | <lambdabot> | chromatic says: My productivity increased when Autrijus told me about Haskell's trace function. He called it a refreshing desert in the oasis of referential transparency. |
| 2024-09-25 12:22:44 +0200 | <ski> | @quote refreshing.desert |
| 2024-09-25 12:19:02 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
| 2024-09-25 12:16:54 +0200 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2024-09-25 12:16:14 +0200 | <Inst> | i'm just trying to get to the stage where i'm comfortable enough with Debug.Trace so that it can demonstrate recursion, I just don't think in terms of Debug.Trace for that |
| 2024-09-25 12:15:15 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | that's not a situation you really want to be in |
| 2024-09-25 12:15:12 +0200 | <Inst> | yeah, i had a phantom bug with someone's library as a consequence :( |
| 2024-09-25 12:14:59 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | but it can be tempting to "forget" that the output that you're using very effectively is actually coming from trace calls |
| 2024-09-25 12:14:27 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | it's an awesome debugging tool |
| 2024-09-25 12:14:21 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | it's a debugging tool -- yes it says so in the name |
| 2024-09-25 12:14:12 +0200 | <Inst> | i think it says so in the name? |
| 2024-09-25 12:14:09 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | (whatever "production" means in your context) |
| 2024-09-25 12:14:00 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | beware of relying on its behaviour for "production" code though |
| 2024-09-25 12:13:05 +0200 | <Inst> | but w/e, I guess the essence of today's rant is Debug.Trace is awesome and I should use it more |
| 2024-09-25 12:11:41 +0200 | <Inst> | Handle__ isn't that bad, tbh, it's mostly IORefs and MVars |
| 2024-09-25 12:11:09 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | *idea |
| 2024-09-25 12:11:07 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | that sounds like a bad ide |
| 2024-09-25 12:10:43 +0200 | <Inst> | tomsmeding: I'm trying to extract the buffer and replace it on use. |
| 2024-09-25 12:07:44 +0200 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-09-25 12:06:54 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2024-09-25 12:06:39 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-09-25 12:06:34 +0200 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) |
| 2024-09-25 12:01:24 +0200 | morb | (~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2024-09-25 11:57:00 +0200 | migas977 | (~migas@static.140.65.63.178.clients.your-server.de) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io) |
| 2024-09-25 11:56:52 +0200 | misterfish | (~misterfis@84.53.85.146) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2024-09-25 11:53:46 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | sm: the 'breakpoint' package seems to be a GHC plugin, there's also a suggestively named function at GHC.Exts.breakpoint |
| 2024-09-25 11:53:15 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | you don't write to it, you read from it |