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2024-09-24 22:37:47 +0200merijn(~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-09-24 22:34:10 +0200 <EvanR> a tree with no defined operations
2024-09-24 22:28:58 +0200demcgovern(~demcgover@216.106.58.132.reverse.socket.net) demcgovern
2024-09-24 22:26:57 +0200merijn(~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2024-09-24 22:23:19 +0200 <monochrom> If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, is it still a messaging system? >:)
2024-09-24 22:22:26 +0200 <monochrom> There is also an oxymoron in "messaging but no message no sender no receiver". It's why I thought of /dev/null instinctly.
2024-09-24 22:22:00 +0200merijn(~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-09-24 22:14:52 +0200cyphase(~cyphase@user/cyphase) cyphase
2024-09-24 22:13:39 +0200ft(~ft@p508db65d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft
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2024-09-24 22:11:13 +0200morb(~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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2024-09-24 22:09:05 +0200DigitteknohippieDigit
2024-09-24 22:07:40 +0200 <[exa]> (spoiler: secure distributed systems kinda emerge from doing everything right locally)
2024-09-24 22:07:27 +0200 <[exa]> thirdofmay18081814goya: ah so. good luck there. :D
2024-09-24 22:06:40 +0200 <[exa]> there are folks who have whole cabinets of this stuff
2024-09-24 22:06:27 +0200 <[exa]> monochrom: we got exact protocol on retaining and then destroying the paper exams
2024-09-24 22:06:12 +0200 <[exa]> monochrom: oh man
2024-09-24 22:06:08 +0200 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> am just thinking about modeling security in a distributed system
2024-09-24 22:05:27 +0200 <[exa]> thirdofmay18081814goya btw sounded a bit like an XYZ question, any reason why you'd need such a messaging protocol?
2024-09-24 22:04:45 +0200merijn(~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-09-24 22:04:41 +0200 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> [exa]: ty for recs!
2024-09-24 22:04:39 +0200 <monochrom> Don't laugh, in education (and in business before they went paperless), secure destruction of exam papers is a thing to protect student privacy and avoid exam question leaks. Profs can put past exam papers into a locked box at the department; some company comes periodically to pick them up and shred them before sending to recycling.
2024-09-24 22:04:11 +0200 <[exa]> thirdofmay18081814goya: stuff with ephemeral keys (DH-like) doesn't have exact enc/dec keys, and various groupy protocols get pretty wild in there (see partial homomorphic encryption)
2024-09-24 22:03:53 +0200morb(~morb@pool-108-41-100-120.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
2024-09-24 22:00:35 +0200 <geekosaur> *snicker*
2024-09-24 22:00:23 +0200 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> monochrom: will read up on that, ty
2024-09-24 22:00:11 +0200 <monochrom> "The data sink model"
2024-09-24 21:59:58 +0200 <monochrom> Does /dev/null count? >:)
2024-09-24 21:53:58 +0200 <haskellbridge> <thirdofmay18081814goya> is there an instance of cryptographic message-passing that is not modeled by: a message, a sender, a receiver, a channel, an encryption key, and a decryption key?
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