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| 2024-06-17 09:15:13 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | so i gather referential transparency is part of denotational semantics while evaluation strategy is not? |
| 2024-06-17 09:14:36 +0200 | <Leary> | This is one area where Haskell's beauty is kinda working against us---purity and referential transparency give rise to endless meaning-preserving transformations that the compiler is free to use in optimisation. |
| 2024-06-17 09:14:16 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | thanks probie, seems to confirm your criteria is a valid one, and easy to internalize |
| 2024-06-17 09:13:47 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | thanks Leary... arguably there is a collapse of semantics there, or maybe evaluation is not part of denotational semantics |
| 2024-06-17 09:13:23 +0200 | <probie> | If we have `f a b = let thing = a + b in \c -> thing + c` and `g = f 3 4`, we've made a thunk for `g`, which if reduced to whnf would be `\c -> thing + c` where `thing` is a thunk containing `3 + 4` |
| 2024-06-17 09:12:02 +0200 | <Leary> | danse-nr3: It's mostly a matter of understanding GHC's evaluation strategy and the optimisations it's free to make. For the former you can read up on STG, I guess, but I don't really have a good source for the latter. There are some good SPJ talks and lexi-lambda videos on GHC optimisations, and the -f flags in the User's Guide are a decent reference. |
| 2024-06-17 09:11:43 +0200 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) |
| 2024-06-17 09:11:23 +0200 | <probie> | If we have `f a b c = let thing = a + b in thing + c` and `g = f 3 4`, we've made a thunk for `g`, which if reduced to whnf would be `\c -> let thing = 3 + 4 in thing + c`. However, there is no thunk for `thing` yet |
| 2024-06-17 09:11:01 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | this seems tricky territory anyways. Besides probie's useful criteria, learning resources are welcome |