2024/05/17

Newest at the top

2024-05-17 20:30:06 +0200 <ph88> glguy, i adapted your code. It works with 2 constraints. Why does it fail with one? https://play.haskell.org/saved/EAupqGhV
2024-05-17 20:16:44 +0200peterbecich(~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2024-05-17 20:08:38 +0200 <ph88> [Leary], maybe i misunderstood. When i try to use your suggestion i'm not sure how it would work https://play.haskell.org/saved/KPj9Vxob
2024-05-17 20:02:18 +0200peterbecich(~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com)
2024-05-17 19:58:13 +0200 <glguy> that repository predates quantified constraints
2024-05-17 19:58:01 +0200 <[Leary]> Ah, though I guess that subset is actually just elem, due to QuantifiedConstraints limitations.
2024-05-17 19:54:46 +0200 <[Leary]> glguy: Just BTW, the bare constraint is already powerful enough without the list. `class Null` ~ []; `class (c1 & c2) a` ~ c1 ++ c2; `type c <: cs = (forall x. cs x => c x) :: Constraint` ~ c subset cs.
2024-05-17 19:50:55 +0200 <[Leary]> ph88: I think you've misunderstood. The `data` declaration in the library part doesn't need to change, the /user/ just uses the type at `Entity (c & GetMessage)` instead of `Entity c`.
2024-05-17 19:45:05 +0200ubert(~Thunderbi@p200300ecdf1a442dbe8e8c8f9360db77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2024-05-17 19:44:20 +0200pavonia(~user@user/siracusa) (Quit: Bye!)
2024-05-17 19:43:06 +0200 <glguy> so on line 14 it's a constraint that Show is an element of the list (cs), 20 is that the list [Show] is a subset of the list cs . They're two ways to do write the same idea
2024-05-17 19:42:39 +0200 <ph88> by the way, this reminds me of the effectful library, looks similar to how to compose effects
2024-05-17 19:42:11 +0200 <glguy> ∈ is pronounced "element of" and ⊆ is pronounced "subset of or equal to"
2024-05-17 19:41:13 +0200 <ph88> glguy, what are the symbols on line 14 and 20 in the gists ?
2024-05-17 19:31:07 +0200nullie(~nullie@nuremberg.nullie.name)
2024-05-17 19:30:49 +0200nullie(~nullie@nuremberg.nullie.name) (Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1)
2024-05-17 19:27:31 +0200kimiamania(~76637481@user/kimiamania)
2024-05-17 19:25:53 +0200chele(~chele@user/chele) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-05-17 19:25:11 +0200nullie(~nullie@nuremberg.nullie.name)
2024-05-17 19:24:48 +0200nullie(~nullie@nuremberg.nullie.name) (Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1)
2024-05-17 19:24:47 +0200 <ph88> glguy, cool i'll play around with that see how it goes
2024-05-17 19:23:03 +0200 <ph88> [Leary], from my second paste https://play.haskell.org/saved/nsO7Fn41 when i move stuff from GetMessage (user part) into data Entity (library part) it defeats the goal. A creative idea nonetheless i will keep it in mind for other situations
2024-05-17 19:23:00 +0200mei(~mei@user/mei)
2024-05-17 19:22:44 +0200peterbecich(~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2024-05-17 19:21:27 +0200 <glguy> I did an example of this style a while back https://github.com/glguy/operations/blob/master/src/Example.hs
2024-05-17 19:20:31 +0200 <glguy> Maybe you want to bake the idea of multiple constraints into your entity type? https://play.haskell.org/saved/cMgRB0yD
2024-05-17 19:19:31 +0200 <[Leary]> ph88: Yes? I mean the type constructor defined by the `data Entity ...` declaration in your first paste.
2024-05-17 19:16:34 +0200mei(~mei@user/mei) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-05-17 19:15:55 +0200target_i(~target_i@user/target-i/x-6023099)
2024-05-17 19:10:53 +0200 <ph88> [Leary], will allow you to write `Entity (HasDataID & GetMessage)`. Do you mean data Entity ?
2024-05-17 19:10:28 +0200nullie(~nullie@nuremberg.nullie.name)
2024-05-17 19:10:04 +0200nullie(~nullie@2a01:4f8:c2c:6177::1) (Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1)
2024-05-17 19:08:56 +0200peterbecich(~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com)
2024-05-17 19:05:32 +0200tzh(~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
2024-05-17 19:01:01 +0200 <[Leary]> No, that doesn't suffice for their use-case.
2024-05-17 19:00:47 +0200 <monochrom> You should simply enable ConstraintKinds and write "type (&) c1 c2 a = (c1 a, c2 a)"
2024-05-17 18:59:42 +0200 <monochrom> Again, "instance ... => Foo a" means that every type is a Foo instance. (Oh, the ... conditions are checked later and cause hard errors, not as preconditions.)
2024-05-17 18:59:34 +0200 <[Leary]> "Use UndecidableSuperClasses to accept this"
2024-05-17 18:57:32 +0200 <ph88> [Leary], something is not quite right https://play.haskell.org/saved/R4jW1YVV
2024-05-17 18:56:05 +0200petrichor(~znc-user@user/petrichor)
2024-05-17 18:45:40 +0200Unicorn_Princess(~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542)
2024-05-17 18:42:35 +0200_xor8_xor
2024-05-17 18:42:35 +0200_xor(~xor@ip-208-102-243-175.dynamic.fuse.net) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2024-05-17 18:41:03 +0200_xor8(~xor@ip-208-102-243-175.dynamic.fuse.net)
2024-05-17 18:39:45 +0200petrichor(~znc-user@user/petrichor) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in)
2024-05-17 18:27:46 +0200machinedgod(~machinedg@d173-183-246-216.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2024-05-17 18:20:25 +0200billchenchina(~billchenc@103.152.35.21)
2024-05-17 18:19:51 +0200billchenchina(~billchenc@103.152.35.21) (Quit: Leaving)
2024-05-17 18:13:24 +0200sp1ff(~user@c-24-21-45-157.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
2024-05-17 18:10:06 +0200yin(~yin@user/zero)