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2024-05-13 18:26:51 +0200 <mdpete> which has more beginner friendly learning resources, haskell or ocamel?
2024-05-13 18:25:51 +0200 <mdpete> Thank you.
2024-05-13 18:25:47 +0200xal(~xal@mx1.xal.systems)
2024-05-13 18:25:19 +0200xal(~xal@mx1.xal.systems) ()
2024-05-13 18:24:58 +0200 <EvanR> you're not forced to learn new things, but it's a good idea
2024-05-13 18:24:11 +0200 <mdpete> excuse me If I ask much questions, I am very patient , and I believe in learning foundations deeply. Do you recommend to spend time to get used to how haskell force its developers think? or the easy way of python , I don't have any favorites .
2024-05-13 18:24:02 +0200tzh(~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
2024-05-13 18:22:07 +0200dezalator(~dezalator@77-254-94-95.dynamic.inetia.pl) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-05-13 18:20:07 +0200cfricke(~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Quit: WeeChat 4.2.2)
2024-05-13 18:19:21 +0200 <EvanR> you probably have to forget any python you know to get started in haskell
2024-05-13 18:18:49 +0200 <EvanR> the diagrams library and the gloss library are two things which can make showing some graphics easy
2024-05-13 18:18:17 +0200 <mdpete> I am self studying without any university degree
2024-05-13 18:18:00 +0200 <mdpete> I learned these in Python , and read some chapter of Scheme.
2024-05-13 18:17:15 +0200 <EvanR> have you tried following a basic haskell tutorial
2024-05-13 18:17:07 +0200 <mdpete> and how to define a function
2024-05-13 18:17:06 +0200 <EvanR> this is haskell, so you will be doing pattern matching a lot more than "if statement"
2024-05-13 18:16:44 +0200 <mdpete> I just know ,variables, if statement, and lists
2024-05-13 18:15:58 +0200 <mdpete> EvanR ,would you please explain a bit more, how I can do it
2024-05-13 18:09:32 +0200 <stefan-__> c_wraith: tnx, lets see how it goes
2024-05-13 18:08:37 +0200 <EvanR> unless you really really like processing data files
2024-05-13 18:07:59 +0200 <EvanR> mdpete, the same thing I did as a beginner. Figure out as soon as possible how to show graphics and make sounds
2024-05-13 18:07:19 +0200 <c_wraith> stefan-__: note that for whatever reason, the -haddock flag seems to make installing primitive break. It's not really fully-supported yet...
2024-05-13 18:04:20 +0200ft(~ft@p508db8fc.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2024-05-13 18:01:47 +0200danse-nr3(~danse-nr3@151.57.39.218) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2024-05-13 18:01:46 +0200 <mdpete> I have started to learn basics of programming . I read that there is no best first programming language. I guess Haskell programmers are more into joy of programming. Would you please recommend me as a beginner what you should do if you had the chance to srtart again as a total beginner?
2024-05-13 18:00:55 +0200euleritian(~euleritia@dynamic-176-003-078-122.176.3.pool.telefonica.de)
2024-05-13 18:00:46 +0200euleritian(~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2024-05-13 17:59:47 +0200urdh(~urdh@user/urdh)
2024-05-13 17:58:18 +0200urdh(~urdh@user/urdh) (Quit: Boom!)
2024-05-13 17:58:09 +0200 <stefan-__> c_wraith: this helped https://github.com/haskell/haskell-language-server/issues/4210#issuecomment-2094925497 :)
2024-05-13 17:57:29 +0200mdpete(~mdpete@46.143.107.90)
2024-05-13 17:54:02 +0200 <ski> dmj` : because it's blub to them
2024-05-13 17:50:52 +0200 <c_wraith> ah. there it is. .local/state/cabal/store is the default if it's using XDG paths.
2024-05-13 17:49:04 +0200titibandit(~titibandi@user/titibandit) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2024-05-13 17:48:31 +0200dezalator(~dezalator@77-254-94-95.dynamic.inetia.pl)
2024-05-13 17:47:02 +0200 <dmj`> ski: they make it sound like it's frankenstein
2024-05-13 17:46:36 +0200 <c_wraith> you still have a .cabal directory? lucky
2024-05-13 17:46:14 +0200 <stefan-__> removed that directory, now the dependencies are rebuilding :)
2024-05-13 17:45:58 +0200 <tomsmeding> ignore me :)
2024-05-13 17:45:55 +0200 <tomsmeding> oops
2024-05-13 17:45:52 +0200 <stefan-__> it seems to build to "~/.cabal/store/ghc-9.8.2/"
2024-05-13 17:45:51 +0200 <tomsmeding> you're right
2024-05-13 17:45:47 +0200 <tomsmeding> _oh_
2024-05-13 17:45:37 +0200 <c_wraith> tomsmeding: that doesn't build the same docs.
2024-05-13 17:45:15 +0200 <tomsmeding> stefan-__: have you tried putting 'documentation: True' in your cabal.project for the project? (If you don't have one yet, you also need 'packages: .' in there)
2024-05-13 17:44:03 +0200 <tomsmeding> but that hammer may be somewhat too large :p
2024-05-13 17:43:47 +0200 <tomsmeding> stefan-__: you can enable building documentation globally always by setting the 'documentation' key in ~/.cabal/config
2024-05-13 17:42:17 +0200machinedgod(~machinedg@d173-183-246-216.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2024-05-13 17:42:11 +0200 <c_wraith> yeah, you'd need to wipe the directory cabal builds stuff in. I honestly don't know where that is since they started using XDG stuff. I can't find it anymore.
2024-05-13 17:42:09 +0200tromp(~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl)