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| 2026-04-16 01:47:07 +0000 | uli-fem | (~uli-fem@203.87.114.209) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-04-16 01:45:42 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
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| 2026-04-16 01:40:44 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-04-16 01:38:34 +0000 | <drbean> | Bye |
| 2026-04-16 01:38:26 +0000 | <drbean> | Thanks. Mrs Bean says I have to eat. |
| 2026-04-16 01:35:06 +0000 | polykernel_ | polykernel |
| 2026-04-16 01:35:06 +0000 | polykernel | (~polykerne@user/polykernel) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-04-16 01:33:10 +0000 | polykernel_ | (~polykerne@user/polykernel) polykernel |
| 2026-04-16 01:31:57 +0000 | <geekosaur> | (I think the packages dir is directly in ~/.cabal in old style?) |
| 2026-04-16 01:31:35 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I have $HOME/.cache/cabal/packages/hackage.haskell.org/01-index.tar.gz but I use XDG mode. it'll be under $HOME/.cabal in old mode. don't know where Windows puts it |
| 2026-04-16 01:29:35 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-04-16 01:28:03 +0000 | <drbean> | Good to know. |
| 2026-04-16 01:27:45 +0000 | <drbean> | OK. 'cabal update' isn't a pressing issue. |
| 2026-04-16 01:27:03 +0000 | <geekosaur> | if it fails, obviously you won't see new versions of things, but you can still instaall and switch between versions it kn ows about via the cached file. cabal also continues to work if `cabal update` (after the very first one) fails, it just won't know about newer packages |
| 2026-04-16 01:27:00 +0000 | <drbean> | If it can, I will use curl to download https://hackage.haskell.org/.../01-index.tar.gz. Where doesit put the 01-index tarball? |
| 2026-04-16 01:26:34 +0000 | uli-fem | (~uli-fem@203.87.114.209) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-04-16 01:25:57 +0000 | <geekosaur> | ghcup, on the other hand, only deals with a handful of tools and gets information about those from a yaml file which it tries to update periodically |
| 2026-04-16 01:25:22 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-04-16 01:24:59 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I'm not sure what you think is going on there. the cached file already has its associated indiexes. what it doesn't have is any new uploads to Hackage |
| 2026-04-16 01:23:48 +0000 | synchrom1 | (~john@115.69.186.131) (Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1) |
| 2026-04-16 01:23:48 +0000 | <drbean> | Can cabal build the index from a cached file, like ghcup can for installing hls, etc? |
| 2026-04-16 01:22:37 +0000 | yaroot | (~yaroot@2400:4052:ac0:d901:1cf4:2aff:fe51:c04c) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-04-16 01:22:22 +0000 | uli-fem | (~uli-fem@203.87.114.209) |
| 2026-04-16 01:21:51 +0000 | <geekosaur> | and then indexes that; actual updates happen later when packages are (re)built, but the index's contents inform the solver for picking versions of packages/dependencies |
| 2026-04-16 01:20:37 +0000 | <geekosaur> | it downloads an 01-index.tar.gz which as a complete index of hackage's contents' cabal files |
| 2026-04-16 01:19:44 +0000 | <drbean> | But the broken installation process with ghcup and cabal is something I want to fix |
| 2026-04-16 01:19:12 +0000 | <geekosaur> | that's not what cabal update does anyway. (also -v3 might have it) |
| 2026-04-16 01:18:32 +0000 | <drbean> | This 'cabal update' is not particularly pressing. |
| 2026-04-16 01:18:28 +0000 | spew | (~spew@user/spew) (Quit: nyaa~) |
| 2026-04-16 01:17:15 +0000 | <drbean> | And then install from the cache with 'ghcup --cache install hls' etc. |
| 2026-04-16 01:16:27 +0000 | <drbean> | 'ghcup' does, so as workaround, I download the hls, cabal, stack tarballs to ghcup's cache dir. |
| 2026-04-16 01:15:06 +0000 | <drbean> | Sorry 'cabal -v update' |
| 2026-04-16 01:14:47 +0000 | <drbean> | The verbose output from 'curl -v update' doesn't appear to have a URL of a file with list of updates I can download. |
| 2026-04-16 01:14:11 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-04-16 01:11:59 +0000 | spew | (~spew@user/spew) spew |
| 2026-04-16 01:07:19 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-04-16 01:06:24 +0000 | <drbean> | OK. Good to know. Unlike 'ghcup', 'cabal' doesn't report the URL. I will try the verbosity flat |
| 2026-04-16 01:06:11 +0000 | <EvanR> | if ghcup is relying on github at some point that's been getting mixed reviews today |
| 2026-04-16 01:05:07 +0000 | <sclv> | you can run cabal update with a verbosity flag to debug |
| 2026-04-16 01:05:06 +0000 | <drbean> | But ghcup reports the URL it's failing to download from, and I use curl to download it and then 'ghcup --cache install hls', etc. |
| 2026-04-16 01:03:43 +0000 | <drbean> | Rarely with ghcup and now cabal, connecting to download ghc, etc works. |
| 2026-04-16 01:02:51 +0000 | <drbean> | On Windows 10. |
| 2026-04-16 01:02:32 +0000 | <drbean> | Something is broken in the ghcup toolchain. |
| 2026-04-16 01:00:22 +0000 | <drbean> | I know! I'll go to https://hackage.haskell.org/cabal-install |
| 2026-04-16 00:59:01 +0000 | humasect_ | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |