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| 2024-05-06 18:58:05 +0200 | justsomeguy | (~justsomeg@user/justsomeguy) |
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| 2024-05-06 18:36:29 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2024-05-06 18:32:56 +0200 | <gastus> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.19.1.0/docs/Control-Concurrent.html#v:threadDelay @ erty Read the docs: There it says will not be scheduled earlier but will wait at least. So threadDelay will allow other theads to continue. So RTFM :-) |
| 2024-05-06 18:32:49 +0200 | <EvanR> | more like no write |
| 2024-05-06 18:32:20 +0200 | <EvanR> | what xD |
| 2024-05-06 18:32:09 +0200 | <EvanR> | copy on write?? |
| 2024-05-06 18:31:18 +0200 | <gastus> | If you want to sleep until you release try reading from socket file or so and echo a byte into it to release the stalling. |
| 2024-05-06 18:30:51 +0200 | kimiamania | (~76637481@user/kimiamania) |
| 2024-05-06 18:30:29 +0200 | kimiamania | (~76637481@user/kimiamania) (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) |
| 2024-05-06 18:30:16 +0200 | <gastus> | If its testing only any of the solutions probaly get the job done. If you want to do A/B testing on web server which should not stall .. then you want ot use a version provide dby the GHC runtime which allows other threads to conitnue. So evenutally spawn 100 threads and see what happens with what sleep solution ? Then you know. |
| 2024-05-06 18:29:24 +0200 | <gastus> | You can run a GHC complied program with different multithreading options. So looks like you're eventually touching that stuff. |
| 2024-05-06 18:29:22 +0200 | <erty> | gastus: Thanks a lot. I will look into that. |
| 2024-05-06 18:28:28 +0200 | <gastus> | https://hoogle.haskell.org/?q=sleep&hoogle=sleep And Hoogle says there are sleep implementations, too. Now you might perefer eg the GHC verison so that GHC can use CPU for other threads. |
| 2024-05-06 18:27:48 +0200 | <gastus> | Most languages call it sleep, but https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47816174/how-to-sleep-or-delay-the-thread-in-haskell indicates threadDelay works |
| 2024-05-06 18:27:33 +0200 | <davean> | It won't compile, for the obvious reason |
| 2024-05-06 18:27:22 +0200 | <gastus> | Why not just try it ? |
| 2024-05-06 18:27:18 +0200 | <davean> | gastus: it isn't about IO implimentations, its about how libraries interface with them |
| 2024-05-06 18:26:37 +0200 | <erty> | davean: I just want to delay the execution by some time period |
| 2024-05-06 18:26:33 +0200 | <gastus> | davean: I am not up to date about how many IO implementations exist today. In the past I heard about a rewrite with different locking features. |
| 2024-05-06 18:26:15 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@77.22.252.56) |
| 2024-05-06 18:25:54 +0200 | <davean> | But nothing he's talkign about is that |
| 2024-05-06 18:25:49 +0200 | <gastus> | You eventually cannot easily translate JS into Haskell. Haskess has unique copy on write properties making real multithreading possible. |
| 2024-05-06 18:25:48 +0200 | <davean> | gastus: I mean async/await structures also directly make sense for IO |
| 2024-05-06 18:25:43 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@77.22.252.56) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-05-06 18:25:21 +0200 | <gastus> | erty: Haskell has its own multi thread engine builtin. Its cheap in Haskell. So its ok to spawn 20K threads each doing its own thing and waitingc for it. Why not lookup fork and STM and IO and the stuff ? That's the haskell way to sync and wait for threads. Mvar was the the way to synchronize threads. |
| 2024-05-06 18:25:20 +0200 | <erty> | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47816174/how-to-sleep-or-delay-the-thread-in-haskell |
| 2024-05-06 18:24:54 +0200 | <erty> | threadDelay is something I got after searching online |
| 2024-05-06 18:24:23 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2024-05-06 18:24:11 +0200 | <davean> | The sense in which async/await delays a function is not at all the sense threadDelay delays it |
| 2024-05-06 18:24:01 +0200 | <erty> | I can set a timer and wait for the promise to resolve |
| 2024-05-06 18:23:21 +0200 | <davean> | this is nothing like async/await |
| 2024-05-06 18:23:12 +0200 | <erty> | I am just curious, like async/await in javascript |
| 2024-05-06 18:22:43 +0200 | <davean> | yes technically, but no, that would be bad in several ways |
| 2024-05-06 18:22:34 +0200 | <nullie> | why do you want to do that? |
| 2024-05-06 18:21:52 +0200 | <erty> | Now Haskell provide us with a function "threadDelay :: Int -> IO ()" in the module "Control.Concurrent", can I use that, to delay the above function. |
| 2024-05-06 18:21:44 +0200 | <erty> | I have a ques, Is it possible to add delay to a function (eg. add :: Int -> Int)? https://paste.tomsmeding.com/qx8saWEW |
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