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| 2024-05-02 22:03:29 +0200 | hseg | (~gesh@77.137.75.224) |
| 2024-05-02 22:01:17 +0200 | k`` | (~k``@136.54.34.25) |
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| 2024-05-02 21:55:11 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
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| 2024-05-02 21:26:00 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
| 2024-05-02 21:26:00 +0200 | <int-e> | @tell hseg Building with cabal-install works too if one sets the program flags in the config file (I did it for gcc (-fPIC), ghc (-fPIC and -fPIE), and ld (-pie)); I'm not sure how that translates to command line options. |
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| 2024-05-02 20:27:00 +0200 | hseg | (~gesh@77.137.75.224) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-05-02 20:18:11 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | when I do haskelling myself I sometimes marvel at the inscrutability of error messages I get when doing seemingly harmless things that even beginners could do |
| 2024-05-02 20:18:10 +0200 | <hseg> | thanks for the help, but ig I'll stick to my previous giving up |
| 2024-05-02 20:17:39 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | the fact that such a low-tech space exists is good, and mostly what I was asking for :) |
| 2024-05-02 20:17:02 +0200 | <monochrom> | It is also possible that I only ask them to do basic low-tech things so it is very hard to even randomly wander into the high-tech error space. |
| 2024-05-02 20:16:24 +0200 | sand-witch | (~m-mzmz6l@vmi833741.contaboserver.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-05-02 20:16:22 +0200 | <hseg> | int-e: ... and that's a no for -pie -fPIC via cabal: https://0x0.st/XXLc.txt |
| 2024-05-02 20:15:19 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | it is indeed, but it says something |
| 2024-05-02 20:15:05 +0200 | <monochrom> | But those who came to my office hours have never showed me error messages of that kind. But that is a biased data pool. |
| 2024-05-02 20:14:37 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | if you've taught enough students on this topic you'd have received complaints from their side if they're running into it a lot :) |
| 2024-05-02 20:14:35 +0200 | <Rembane> | monochrom: How much have they told you without polls? |
| 2024-05-02 20:14:05 +0200 | <monochrom> | Here is where I show my laziness. I haven't polled students for what they are going through! |
| 2024-05-02 20:13:18 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | if they made an innocent mistake |
| 2024-05-02 20:13:01 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | for curiosity, do you not run into ghc flinging FlexibleConstraints, DataKinds, AllowAmbiguousTypes, RankNTypes, etc. in your students' faces? |