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2026-06-25 02:48:24 +0000 <slack1256> At <work> we use multiple binaries interacting via protobuf to solve a business problem. They are only separated because the GC parameters on the RTS should be different for each. One of these hold long term state (non moving) while the others would do better with parallel GC and so on. The major problem with this setup is that each binary carries its own RTS and that is a constant memory use. If these binaries were made from C
2026-06-25 02:48:24 +0000 <slack1256> the runtime is basically non existent and I am not punished by breaking the binaries. What other options should I consider? I would like to reuse the haskell RTS but the parameters for sections of the programs should be different.
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2026-06-25 02:52:40 +0000 <geekosaur> ghc at least doesn't give you any options there, unless the long term state is also not changing in which case you might like compact regions
2026-06-25 02:53:54 +0000 <geekosaur> you would otherwise need multiple heaps, each with its own gc, and ghc's rts doesn't support that
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2026-06-25 02:58:24 +0000 <slack1256> Alternatively, having options to reduce RTS statup cost (memory mainly) would help a lot. launching 5 binaries usually start at arround 32MiB for the startup cost.
2026-06-25 03:02:50 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2026-06-25 03:06:47 +0000 <EvanR> slack1256, if the long term state is static compact regions might work
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2026-06-25 03:10:35 +0000 <slack1256> The long term state is not static.
2026-06-25 03:10:37 +0000 <slack1256> https://jhhuh.github.io/ghc-fastboot/ghc-compact-regions-and-runtime-limitations/
2026-06-25 03:10:40 +0000 <slack1256> This is interesting
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2026-06-25 04:23:01 +0000 <monochrom> Dynamic linking allows sharing RTS code.
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