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| 2026-02-05 00:40:50 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> There still are actual malfunctions out there, like faulty ram modules that flip some bits. |
| 2026-02-05 00:41:26 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> good luck figuring out what is because of such a malfunction and what comes from programmer brainfarts :P |
| 2026-02-05 00:44:07 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
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| 2026-02-05 00:50:38 +0100 | <EvanR> | not just faulty ram, unless it's by definition, even space grade chips will be giving a rating in terms of probability |
| 2026-02-05 00:51:48 +0100 | <lantti> | isn't it still a programmers decision if it is acceptable that such malfunctions cause a program to fail (considering severity and probability etc.)? |
| 2026-02-05 00:52:39 +0100 | <lantti> | if it is not then the programmer must take that into consideration and have reduncancy and whatnot |
| 2026-02-05 00:52:43 +0100 | <EvanR> | that's the esolang I was talking about |
| 2026-02-05 00:52:55 +0100 | <jreicher> | I wish my workplace tested with chaosmonkey |
| 2026-02-05 00:52:57 +0100 | <EvanR> | where code is deterioriating around you, and it's up to the programmer to somehow deal with it |
| 2026-02-05 00:53:20 +0100 | <lantti> | oh, sorry I didn't read back far enough |
| 2026-02-05 00:53:23 +0100 | <EvanR> | instead of assuming we have this luxurious ideal computer |
| 2026-02-05 00:53:38 +0100 | qqq | (~qqq@185.54.21.178) |
| 2026-02-05 00:54:00 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> I remember random flips from alpha particles were actual problem for some ram chips |
| 2026-02-05 00:54:01 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> but there's some possibility that space radiation could flip a bit in any chip |
| 2026-02-05 00:54:24 +0100 | <EvanR> | I need to find this page by superkuh, which lists all the reasons the bits could flip |
| 2026-02-05 00:54:27 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> and probably many other sources of bad things that could happem.. |
| 2026-02-05 00:54:54 +0100 | <EvanR> | space radiation over here, the material your chip is made of has a % of radioactive material in it, ... |
| 2026-02-05 00:56:03 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2026-02-05 00:56:17 +0100 | <EvanR> | https://esolangs.org/wiki/Entropy |
| 2026-02-05 00:56:28 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> maybe even just above average thermal fluctuation, given how small chips are now |
| 2026-02-05 00:56:40 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> dense that is |
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