2025-05-16 00:02:08 +0200 | <monochrom> | Yes. But macOS is not okay, hence the frequent cycle. |
2025-05-16 00:02:59 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 00:03:41 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:a44a:50e6:3df5:3b66) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
2025-05-16 00:07:54 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
2025-05-16 00:09:32 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> merijn's IRC client is making low traffic channels less usable for me |
2025-05-16 00:10:52 +0200 | sprotte24 | (~sprotte24@p200300d16f0fe6004d89544af78e53f5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Leaving) |
2025-05-16 00:18:45 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 00:21:42 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | go complain at your irc client vendor to implement a feature hiding join/leave events if those nicks aren't saying anything anyway |
2025-05-16 00:21:45 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | (weechat has this built in) |
2025-05-16 00:23:51 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
2025-05-16 00:24:05 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I can hide them of course, but then I lose useful information about drive by questions etc. I think it's bad form to be constantly joining/leaving 24/7 |
2025-05-16 00:24:34 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> together with being unresponsive |
2025-05-16 00:25:40 +0200 | dolio | (~dolio@130.44.140.168) (Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in) |
2025-05-16 00:25:44 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2025-05-16 00:26:03 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
2025-05-16 00:28:03 +0200 | <int-e> | . o O ( irssi could do /ignore merijn JOINS PARTS QUITS ) |
2025-05-16 00:28:34 +0200 | <hellwolf> | thank you, ityped that in rcirc, and now my toaster is on |
2025-05-16 00:29:11 +0200 | dolio | (~dolio@130.44.140.168) dolio |
2025-05-16 00:33:22 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2025-05-16 00:33:44 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
2025-05-16 00:34:32 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 00:34:32 +0200 | dolio | (~dolio@130.44.140.168) (Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in) |
2025-05-16 00:35:29 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> (example:) |
2025-05-16 00:35:41 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/matrix.org/SjmkPwmlbSGWXycvLvhVfyJJ/_Ishca76mvI/image.png |
2025-05-16 00:39:37 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
2025-05-16 00:41:39 +0200 | dolio | (~dolio@130.44.140.168) dolio |
2025-05-16 00:50:06 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 00:54:36 +0200 | nullobject | (~josh@user/nullobject) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
2025-05-16 00:54:57 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
2025-05-16 00:56:13 +0200 | <TMA> | sm: it might not be the client but the ISP that is too aggressive to drop "inactive" TCP streams |
2025-05-16 00:56:41 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> 👍️ |
2025-05-16 00:56:44 +0200 | jmorris | (uid604645@id-604645.hampstead.irccloud.com) jmorris |
2025-05-16 00:57:19 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d108-173-18-100.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
2025-05-16 00:57:24 +0200 | <TMA> | the default of sending keepalive packets is about an hour |
2025-05-16 00:58:38 +0200 | <TMA> | but some routers/NATs are configured to drop the connection (without bothering to announce it properly via ICMP) in several minutes |
2025-05-16 01:00:32 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> merijn's connected durations aren't all exactly 5m, but close to it |
2025-05-16 01:00:51 +0200 | <Leary> | sm: This is why I like glirc: https://i.imgur.com/yWsxm95.png |
2025-05-16 01:01:31 +0200 | <TMA> | you can tell if it is the case by speaking in merijn-connected channel periodically and observing whether they disconnect approx 5 minutes after you stop |
2025-05-16 01:01:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> and they reconnect not always but usually after 11m |
2025-05-16 01:02:40 +0200 | <TMA> | that looks like autoreconnect with 10 minutes timeout and 1 minute for recognizing the disconnection |
2025-05-16 01:05:53 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 01:06:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> reconnecting in.. boom |
2025-05-16 01:06:56 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it'll disconnect in 5m regardless of us talking I think |
2025-05-16 01:07:00 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2025-05-16 01:07:28 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
2025-05-16 01:07:44 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:7ed8:b8a6:621a:b979) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
2025-05-16 01:07:45 +0200 | <sm> | merijn, pinging you again about your IRC connection, please respond if you can see this |
2025-05-16 01:08:05 +0200 | manwithluck | (~manwithlu@2a09:bac5:5084:2387::38a:3b) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
2025-05-16 01:08:38 +0200 | manwithluck | (~manwithlu@2a09:bac5:5082:2387::38a:10) manwithluck |
2025-05-16 01:10:52 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> disconnecting in 5.. 4.. |
2025-05-16 01:11:06 +0200 | Clint | squints. |
2025-05-16 01:11:13 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
2025-05-16 01:11:18 +0200 | <Clint> | close enough |
2025-05-16 01:13:21 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> merijn didn't respond last time I pinged, maybe an IRC op could reach them ? |
2025-05-16 01:15:46 +0200 | <TMA> | my theory is invalidated |
2025-05-16 01:16:50 +0200 | <EvanR> | sm: the C channel soft kickbans you if you leave and join twice too quickly |
2025-05-16 01:20:01 +0200 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@91-159-69-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Quit: Leaving.) |
2025-05-16 01:20:25 +0200 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
2025-05-16 01:20:31 +0200 | Lord_of_Life_ | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life |
2025-05-16 01:21:41 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 01:21:54 +0200 | Lord_of_Life_ | Lord_of_Life |
2025-05-16 01:22:40 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich |
2025-05-16 01:25:55 +0200 | <monochrom> | A long time ago merijn explained it. Something about macOS going to sleep then waking up on LAN. |
2025-05-16 01:26:11 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> 👀 |
2025-05-16 01:26:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
2025-05-16 01:26:41 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> perhaps he should use a bouncer like me ? |
2025-05-16 01:27:27 +0200 | <monochrom> | I use a bouncer, but I don't want to be imposing and say "everyone must shell out extra money for an extra PC or shell account to run a bouncer". |
2025-05-16 01:27:41 +0200 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
2025-05-16 01:27:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> or configure his mac differently ? or his irc client ? out of kind regard for the room ? |
2025-05-16 01:28:55 +0200 | <monochrom> | But you can count me biased because I am not affected by other people frequently cycling. |
2025-05-16 01:28:56 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I mean, intermittent 5m slices of channel history isn't very useful to him either |
2025-05-16 01:29:45 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I will drop this urgent matter for now :) |
2025-05-16 01:30:08 +0200 | <monochrom> | Oh, I have long accepted that people who learn from history are bound to helplessly watch other people repeat it! |
2025-05-16 01:30:19 +0200 | <int-e> | I for one am more bothered by this discussion than by merijns rejoins and no, I'm not ignoring those. Why? Because they don't show up as channel activity. |
2025-05-16 01:30:46 +0200 | <int-e> | And it's pretty far off topic. |
2025-05-16 01:31:24 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> They do for some of us int-e, as in my screenshot. Having to turn those off entirely and sacrifice all join/leave awareness because of one person's config is silly, don't you think ? |
2025-05-16 01:31:59 +0200 | <int-e> | they're in the (back-)log, but the channel doesn't show as active when somebody parts or joins |
2025-05-16 01:32:22 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I don't know what that means, it sounds client specific |
2025-05-16 01:32:43 +0200 | <int-e> | this entire "problem" is client specific |
2025-05-16 01:32:49 +0200 | int-e | shrugs |
2025-05-16 01:33:01 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> sure, but the root cause is merijn |
2025-05-16 01:33:19 +0200 | acidjnk | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e71c4f453148b790f5eba778.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
2025-05-16 01:33:53 +0200 | flounders | (~flounders@2607:fb90:ee09:4f99:c6b8:4dd2:346a:a4b4) flounders |
2025-05-16 01:34:15 +0200 | <EvanR> | yeah a specific client could discard specifically merijn's join quits |
2025-05-16 01:34:45 +0200 | <EvanR> | and fixing merijn's connection will not save you from it happening to some random other person, but a specific client would |
2025-05-16 01:34:48 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
2025-05-16 01:35:23 +0200 | <EvanR> | another improvement discord made on IRC, no one knows who joined or quit xD |
2025-05-16 01:37:28 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 01:38:12 +0200 | sajenim | (~sajenim@user/sajenim) sajenim |
2025-05-16 01:42:16 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
2025-05-16 01:43:55 +0200 | jespada | (~jespada@r179-25-20-56.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
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2025-05-16 01:50:12 +0200 | sp1ff | (~user@c-67-160-173-55.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
2025-05-16 01:50:14 +0200 | jespada | (~jespada@r179-25-150-22.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) jespada |
2025-05-16 01:50:45 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
2025-05-16 01:53:16 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 01:58:24 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
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2025-05-16 02:09:02 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 02:10:32 +0200 | ttybitnik | (~ttybitnik@user/wolper) (Quit: Fading out...) |
2025-05-16 02:11:09 +0200 | visilii | (~visilii@85.94.27.197) |
2025-05-16 02:13:51 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
2025-05-16 02:16:03 +0200 | ljdarj1 | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
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2025-05-16 02:17:54 +0200 | ljdarj1 | ljdarj |
2025-05-16 02:24:49 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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2025-05-16 02:32:15 +0200 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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2025-05-16 02:42:50 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 02:47:04 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
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2025-05-16 02:58:13 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 03:01:19 +0200 | Square2 | (~Square@user/square) Square |
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2025-05-16 03:05:32 +0200 | jmorris | (uid604645@id-604645.hampstead.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) |
2025-05-16 03:14:00 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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2025-05-16 03:19:18 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
2025-05-16 03:29:47 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
2025-05-16 03:30:51 +0200 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) JuanDaugherty |
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2025-05-16 03:34:32 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
2025-05-16 03:43:03 +0200 | sabathan2 | (~sabathan@amarseille-159-1-12-107.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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2025-05-16 03:45:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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2025-05-16 04:11:04 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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2025-05-16 04:35:40 +0200 | JuanDaugherty | ColinRobinson |
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2025-05-16 05:01:28 +0200 | kitties | catties |
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2025-05-16 05:38:16 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | (~user@user/digit) Digit |