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2025-03-23 00:25:51 +0100 <haskellbridge> <dmjio> My thread stuff still stands, I standby the fact "yield" is not actually changing the thread schedule when doing single core things (for both JS and WASM backends), and WASM backend is the actual GHC RTS so
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2025-03-23 02:20:50 +0100 <talismanick> Is hoogle 502'ing because of LLM spam requests overloading it?
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2025-03-23 02:33:56 +0100 <geekosaur> it's being rate-limited because of those, yes
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2025-03-23 02:37:25 +0100 <EvanR> what...
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2025-03-23 02:37:44 +0100 <EvanR> in the old days you had to send your own spam
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2025-03-23 02:47:35 +0100regalk(~regalk@gateway/tor-sasl/regalk) regalk
2025-03-23 02:47:36 +0100 <enikar> finally we found a use to LLM :/
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2025-03-23 02:58:53 +0100 <talismanick> EvanR: https://thelibre.news/foss-infrastructure-is-under-attack-by-ai-companies/
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2025-03-23 03:02:19 +0100 <talismanick> tl;dr: FOSS devs spend thousands on bandwidth while real users get server timeouts, minute-long delay modals, etc as profit-hungry companies vacuum the same text over and over again for free as they all rush to crawl the web and silo its knowledge in the weights of their own LLMs
2025-03-23 03:03:21 +0100 <talismanick> even though conventional crawlers (Google, Bing) take up a fraction of a percent of bandwidth, these spam scrapers can comprise 90%+ of total bandwidth usage
2025-03-23 03:04:42 +0100 <talismanick> so it's not even tragedy of the commons (in the classic 0-sum formulation of inescapable depletion), it's just laziness offloaded as externality because a free API mean they can't be bothered to spend any of their time
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2025-03-23 03:05:46 +0100 <talismanick> never mind that they go to lengths to coordinate across IP address ranges to circumvent blocks when they could behave themselves and not be blocked to begin with
2025-03-23 03:06:25 +0100 <EvanR> ok so their DDOSing the entire internet
2025-03-23 03:06:33 +0100 <EvanR> isn't there a law against this
2025-03-23 03:07:00 +0100 <talismanick> not in China there isn't, apparently
2025-03-23 03:07:11 +0100 <EvanR> surely when you sue them, their AI-in-place-of-real-lawyers will be the weak point
2025-03-23 03:08:23 +0100 <talismanick> they'll do what all Chinese companies do when you sue them for fraud and malpractice: dissolve and leave you holding the bag, the same scammers creating a new company under a different filing because they know they'll never face consequences
2025-03-23 03:10:12 +0100 <talismanick> not sure what the financial payoff is in sending fake bug report, though
2025-03-23 03:10:31 +0100 <regalk> That is really concerning...
2025-03-23 03:10:54 +0100 <talismanick> junior devs looking to pad their resumes by "contributing" bug reports?
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2025-03-23 03:11:44 +0100 <talismanick> but then we have a whole catalog of bad actors with real professional reputations to blacklist lol
2025-03-23 03:13:00 +0100 <talismanick> although I guess they can fall back on plausible deniability
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2025-03-23 03:53:57 +0100 <haskellbridge> <dmjio> Is this a Haskell channel? Where do I go to talk about Haskell ?
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2025-03-23 03:55:12 +0100 <EvanR> here
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