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2026-02-05 00:40:50 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> There still are actual malfunctions out there, like faulty ram modules that flip some bits.
2026-02-05 00:41:26 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> good luck figuring out what is because of such a malfunction and what comes from programmer brainfarts :P
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2026-02-05 00:50:38 +0100 <EvanR> not just faulty ram, unless it's by definition, even space grade chips will be giving a rating in terms of probability
2026-02-05 00:51:48 +0100 <lantti> isn't it still a programmers decision if it is acceptable that such malfunctions cause a program to fail (considering severity and probability etc.)?
2026-02-05 00:52:39 +0100 <lantti> if it is not then the programmer must take that into consideration and have reduncancy and whatnot
2026-02-05 00:52:43 +0100 <EvanR> that's the esolang I was talking about
2026-02-05 00:52:55 +0100 <jreicher> I wish my workplace tested with chaosmonkey
2026-02-05 00:52:57 +0100 <EvanR> where code is deterioriating around you, and it's up to the programmer to somehow deal with it
2026-02-05 00:53:20 +0100 <lantti> oh, sorry I didn't read back far enough
2026-02-05 00:53:23 +0100 <EvanR> instead of assuming we have this luxurious ideal computer
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2026-02-05 00:54:00 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> I remember random flips from alpha particles were actual problem for some ram chips
2026-02-05 00:54:01 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> but there's some possibility that space radiation could flip a bit in any chip
2026-02-05 00:54:24 +0100 <EvanR> I need to find this page by superkuh, which lists all the reasons the bits could flip
2026-02-05 00:54:27 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> and probably many other sources of bad things that could happem..
2026-02-05 00:54:54 +0100 <EvanR> space radiation over here, the material your chip is made of has a % of radioactive material in it, ...
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2026-02-05 00:56:17 +0100 <EvanR> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Entropy
2026-02-05 00:56:28 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> maybe even just above average thermal fluctuation, given how small chips are now
2026-02-05 00:56:40 +0100 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> dense that is
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