| 2024-08-31 00:00:39 +0000 | <geekosaur> | …and you miss them 🙂 |
| 2024-08-31 00:01:24 +0000 | <ski> | was just about to reply, when they headed back out into the void |
| 2024-08-31 00:16:10 +0000 | neuroevolutus | (~neuroevol@37.19.200.161) |
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| 2024-08-31 00:42:59 +0000 | <d34df00d> | I've asked about optimizing a not-TCO'd-function that does NFA matching with backtracking a few days ago. |
| 2024-08-31 00:43:05 +0000 | athan | (~athan@syn-098-153-145-140.biz.spectrum.com) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2024-08-31 00:43:30 +0000 | <d34df00d> | So turns out having an explicit mutable vector with a stack of things to visit cuts the run time down from ~ 400 ms to ~ 230 ms. |
| 2024-08-31 00:44:18 +0000 | <d34df00d> | That is, these two versions: https://bpa.st/G3XA |
| 2024-08-31 00:44:48 +0000 | <d34df00d> | (sure, I'll need a proper vector with a not-hardcoded capacity, but as a PoC that's good enough). |
| 2024-08-31 00:50:05 +0000 | neuroevolutus | (~neuroevol@37.19.200.161) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 00:59:53 +0000 | dolio | (~dolio@130.44.140.168) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) |
| 2024-08-31 01:03:08 +0000 | dolio | (~dolio@130.44.140.168) |
| 2024-08-31 01:12:26 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> d34df00d : Does detecting DFAs and PEGs cut the run time? Those have more efficient execution AFAIK |
| 2024-08-31 01:15:38 +0000 | <mauke> | how do I do fmod() in Haskell? |
| 2024-08-31 01:16:05 +0000 | <mauke> | (floating-point modulo) |
| 2024-08-31 01:17:18 +0000 | <d34df00d> | Bowuigi: DFAs might suffer exponential state explosion, so I'm not even trying those. |
| 2024-08-31 01:17:45 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Well, what about PEGs? |
| 2024-08-31 01:18:08 +0000 | <d34df00d> | Although lazy DFA construction, where you basically keep a set of states reachable at each point in the string as you scan the string, have AFAIR the same asympthotics as DFAs, but without the explosion. |
| 2024-08-31 01:18:28 +0000 | <d34df00d> | Although you lose exact backtracking, which is important for some of the features I'm planning to implement later (like lookahead and atomic grouping). |
| 2024-08-31 01:19:02 +0000 | <d34df00d> | Haven't looked at PEGs :) My aim is to implement https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.12639 in haskell. |
| 2024-08-31 01:21:38 +0000 | aforemny_ | (~aforemny@2001:9e8:6cc8:4500:8afd:cf35:f7f8:813a) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 01:22:18 +0000 | aforemny | (~aforemny@2001:9e8:6ce2:6c00:9ee7:8194:4522:87ac) |
| 2024-08-31 01:23:02 +0000 | <geekosaur> | mauke: it's hidden in Data.Fixed for some reason (https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/libraries/base-4.20.0.0-1f57/Data-Fixed.html#v:mod-39-) |
| 2024-08-31 01:24:20 +0000 | <mauke> | geekosaur: thanks |
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| 2024-08-31 01:30:41 +0000 | benjaminl_ | (~benjaminl@c-76-144-12-233.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 2024-08-31 01:31:47 +0000 | <mauke> | basic parser skeleton is working: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/foU0kJNk |
| 2024-08-31 01:31:51 +0000 | benjaminl | (~benjaminl@user/benjaminl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 01:32:14 +0000 | <mauke> | associativity isn't working yet, though |
| 2024-08-31 01:32:18 +0000 | <mauke> | and unary operators are missing |
| 2024-08-31 01:40:59 +0000 | <Leary> | [exa], tomsmeding: `\p f g xs -> join . getCompose $ for xs \x -> Compose $ if p x then pure <$> f x else pure (g x)`? |
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| 2024-08-31 08:07:52 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | Leary: does not quite conform to the original type: in your version, f and g are invoked for each element in the two partitions in turn, whereas [exa]'s original type required f and g to be invoked _once_ on the full partition |
| 2024-08-31 08:08:43 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | but it's definitely a clever construction that I _almost_ understand :p |
| 2024-08-31 08:11:32 +0000 | <Leary> | Yeah, it's hard to know how much of that type is X and how much is Y. I'm guessing that access to each partition as a whole isn't actually necessary. |
| 2024-08-31 08:11:49 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | fair |
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| 2024-08-31 08:16:47 +0000 | <Leary> | Re understanding, a moderate fleshing-out would look like `type TwoPhase f = Compose f f; runTwoPhase = join . getCompose; now = Compose . fmap pure; later = Compose . pure`. Then it's `\p f g -> runTwoPhase . traverse \x -> if p x then now (f x) else later (g x)`. |
| 2024-08-31 08:17:51 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | yes I got that far, essentially |
| 2024-08-31 08:18:08 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | I kind of understand the data flow, but it's not quite intuitive enough that I'd easily be able to come up with it |
| 2024-08-31 08:18:34 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | thanks :) |
| 2024-08-31 08:19:22 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | it's starting to make more sense already |
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| 2024-08-31 11:24:17 +0000 | nnm- | (nnm-@user/nnm-) (Quit: ZNC 1.9.x-git-165-6f28db4a - https://znc.in) |
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| 2024-08-31 11:33:36 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
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| 2024-08-31 12:09:25 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
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| 2024-08-31 12:18:25 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
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| 2024-08-31 12:22:46 +0000 | <[exa]> | Leary: wow cool |
| 2024-08-31 12:22:56 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 12:22:59 +0000 | <[exa]> | not quite the thing but I'm putting this aside for later :D |
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| 2024-08-31 13:12:29 +0000 | oneeyedalien | (~oneeyedal@user/oneeyedalien) |
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| 2024-08-31 13:19:24 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
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| 2024-08-31 13:32:08 +0000 | CrunchyFlakes | (~CrunchyFl@ip-109-42-115-64.web.vodafone.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-08-31 13:34:52 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2024-08-31 13:37:41 +0000 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 13:38:37 +0000 | <[exa]> | hoogle is down? :'( |
| 2024-08-31 13:38:52 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Jade> yup |
| 2024-08-31 13:39:33 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 13:41:01 +0000 | <yin> | i feel like hoogle should have a couple of mirrors |
| 2024-08-31 13:41:56 +0000 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) |
| 2024-08-31 13:43:08 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2024-08-31 13:44:19 +0000 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:482e:12f2:d9e4:60fe) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 13:45:02 +0000 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:482e:12f2:d9e4:60fe) |
| 2024-08-31 13:45:09 +0000 | <[exa]> | +1 yin |
| 2024-08-31 13:45:38 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Jade> https://hoogle.mangoiv.com/ |
| 2024-08-31 13:50:17 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2024-08-31 13:51:35 +0000 | sprout | (~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net) |
| 2024-08-31 13:53:27 +0000 | <yin> | Jade: nice. it would be worth to consider configuring DNS fallover |
| 2024-08-31 13:54:36 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 13:54:40 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Jade> that's not my instance ^^ |
| 2024-08-31 13:54:53 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Jade> or do you mean in general |
| 2024-08-31 14:05:42 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2024-08-31 14:10:24 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 14:15:59 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2024-08-31 14:24:09 +0000 | CrunchyFlakes | (~CrunchyFl@ip-109-42-115-64.web.vodafone.de) |
| 2024-08-31 14:24:16 +0000 | <yin> | in general. a lot of stuff depends on hoogle |
| 2024-08-31 14:24:35 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 14:24:56 +0000 | <yin> | i noticed because duckduckgo has the `h!` shortcut i use all the time |
| 2024-08-31 14:26:40 +0000 | <yin> | i had no idea there were mirrors. DNS fallover across all official(?)/known mirrors would be nice |
| 2024-08-31 14:26:55 +0000 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d50-99-47-73.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 2024-08-31 14:30:54 +0000 | <Maxdamantus> | that can't just be done with DNS because the different mirrors would need to provide suitable certificates. |
| 2024-08-31 14:35:36 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
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| 2024-08-31 15:11:13 +0000 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a05:5800:251:3f00:ca4b:d6ff:fec1:99da) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 15:18:48 +0000 | ddellacosta | (~ddellacos@ool-44c73c8f.dyn.optonline.net) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 15:21:25 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
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| 2024-08-31 15:36:52 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
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| 2024-08-31 15:43:51 +0000 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 2024-08-31 15:45:42 +0000 | Inst | (~Inst@user/Inst) |
| 2024-08-31 15:50:04 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> hoogle.haskell.org is down again |
| 2024-08-31 15:50:24 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> oops, already noted |
| 2024-08-31 15:51:15 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> alternative: https://stackage.org |
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| 2024-08-31 22:15:01 +0000 | Zer000 | (~Zer000@64.137.132.10) |
| 2024-08-31 22:15:46 +0000 | <Zer000> | Is there a mirror for hoogle.haskell.org? that one is down atm. |
| 2024-08-31 22:17:12 +0000 | <geekosaur> | again? |
| 2024-08-31 22:17:21 +0000 | <geekosaur> | davean ^ |
| 2024-08-31 22:18:07 +0000 | <geekosaur> | meanwhile https://hoogle.mangoiv.com is a little underfeatured but should be as complete as the main one |
| 2024-08-31 22:18:22 +0000 | <Zer000> | Oh sweet, thanks |
| 2024-08-31 22:18:36 +0000 | <geekosaur> | you can also use the one on stackage.org |
| 2024-08-31 22:19:53 +0000 | <Zer000> | Oh perfect. |
| 2024-08-31 22:20:18 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2024-08-31 22:22:20 +0000 | <energizer> | does haskell know that -inf is the initial element for max? |
| 2024-08-31 22:26:10 +0000 | <mauke> | know in what sense? |
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| 2024-08-31 22:28:48 +0000 | <mauke> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/5nso6Lhb an interactive calculator |
| 2024-08-31 22:29:08 +0000 | <mauke> | in this version, associativity should actually work. still no unary operators, though |
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| 2024-08-31 23:02:21 +0000 | <energizer> | like `sum []` knows 0 is the initial element for + |
| 2024-08-31 23:02:31 +0000 | fiddlerw- | (~fiddlerwo@user/fiddlerwoaroof) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2024-08-31 23:06:29 +0000 | <c_wraith> | > maximum [] :: Double |
| 2024-08-31 23:06:31 +0000 | <lambdabot> | *Exception: Prelude.maximum: empty list |
| 2024-08-31 23:06:40 +0000 | <c_wraith> | It dodges the question |
| 2024-08-31 23:09:02 +0000 | <c_wraith> | > getMax $ (Max 5.0) <> (Max 2.33) :: Double -- let's try another approach |
| 2024-08-31 23:09:04 +0000 | <lambdabot> | 5.0 |
| 2024-08-31 23:09:06 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2024-08-31 23:09:11 +0000 | <c_wraith> | > getMax $ mempty :: Double |
| 2024-08-31 23:09:12 +0000 | <lambdabot> | error: |
| 2024-08-31 23:09:12 +0000 | <lambdabot> | • No instance for (Bounded Double) arising from a use of ‘mempty’ |
| 2024-08-31 23:09:12 +0000 | <lambdabot> | • In the second argument of ‘($)’, namely ‘mempty’ |
| 2024-08-31 23:09:25 +0000 | <c_wraith> | Still dodging the question, but at compile time now :) |
| 2024-08-31 23:09:32 +0000 | <c_wraith> | So... No. |
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| 2024-08-31 23:34:22 +0000 | hiredman | (~hiredman@frontier1.downey.family) (Quit: Lost terminal) |
| 2024-08-31 23:34:36 +0000 | <monochrom> | I find the anthropopmorphizing "haskell knows", "sum knows" confusing. |
| 2024-08-31 23:35:10 +0000 | <monochrom> | The Integer type does not have a minus infinity. The question is moot. |
| 2024-08-31 23:36:21 +0000 | <monochrom> | Does Haskell "know" that Integer lacks the identity element of max? |
| 2024-08-31 23:36:58 +0000 | <dolio> | Haskell died in 1982. |
| 2024-08-31 23:37:05 +0000 | <dolio> | He doesn't know anything anymore. |
| 2024-08-31 23:37:09 +0000 | <monochrom> | :) |
| 2024-08-31 23:38:28 +0000 | <energizer> | monochrom: can you understand what i mean by `sum` knows that Double has the 0.0 identity element for + |
| 2024-08-31 23:38:38 +0000 | <monochrom> | No. |
| 2024-08-31 23:38:59 +0000 | <energizer> | is this guy serious |
| 2024-08-31 23:39:08 +0000 | <monochrom> | I also don't understand how "sum knows" transitions to "haskell knows" instead of "maximum knows". |
| 2024-08-31 23:40:30 +0000 | <monochrom> | I also pointed out that Integer does not have a minus infinity, so even if haskell/maximum "knows" (whatever that means), it is not "allowed" (whatever that means). |
| 2024-08-31 23:41:44 +0000 | merijn | (~merijn@204-220-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2024-08-31 23:42:03 +0000 | <energizer> | anyway thanks c_wraith |
| 2024-08-31 23:42:22 +0000 | raehik | (~raehik@rdng-25-b2-v4wan-169990-cust1344.vm39.cable.virginm.net) |
| 2024-08-31 23:43:15 +0000 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d50-99-47-73.abhsia.telus.net) |
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| 2024-08-31 23:49:52 +0000 | <weary-traveler> | energizer: in the case of `sum', the 0 you get is the `mempty' corresponding to the Monoid instance of Sum |
| 2024-08-31 23:50:39 +0000 | <energizer> | weary-traveler: yeah that's about what i figured |
| 2024-08-31 23:50:44 +0000 | <monochrom> | Except that the code of sum hardcodes 0 and doesn't go through any Monoid stuff. |
| 2024-08-31 23:51:13 +0000 | <weary-traveler> | hm does it? |
| 2024-08-31 23:51:25 +0000 | <monochrom> | The type is revealing. It is only for Num. |
| 2024-08-31 23:51:51 +0000 | <energizer> | it seems like there could be a (Double, Max, -inf) monoid but i guess it's not represented anywhere |
| 2024-08-31 23:51:56 +0000 | <monochrom> | Or rather, it may use only Num methods. |
| 2024-08-31 23:52:12 +0000 | <weary-traveler> | it uses only num methods, by specifying Sum |
| 2024-08-31 23:52:28 +0000 | <weary-traveler> | the definition i'm seeing is `sum = getSum #. foldMap' Sum' |
| 2024-08-31 23:52:43 +0000 | <monochrom> | And maximum, it may only use Ord methods. There is no Ord method that tells you a global lower bound. |
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