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2024-06-04 00:00:10 +0200 <davean> I mean given the nature of energy, we can actually talk about the precision of a single-charge 1GeV analog computer.
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2024-06-04 15:41:29 +0200 <yin> so i have an old project and i want to update my dependencies. what's the most convenient way of doing this?
2024-06-04 15:42:47 +0200 <tomsmeding> yin: `cabal outdated` might get you started
2024-06-04 15:42:56 +0200 <tomsmeding> or `cabal gen-bounds`
2024-06-04 15:54:12 +0200 <yin> ah. i had incompatibilites with ghc version
2024-06-04 15:54:17 +0200 <yin> ty
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2024-06-04 21:08:52 +0200GlenK(~glenk@syn-050-089-026-031.res.spectrum.com)
2024-06-04 21:10:33 +0200 <GlenK> hi there. just getting started on this learn you a haskell book. It's telling me I could put "a = 1" in a script. Or I could do "let a = 1" if I'm running ghci. but it seems to work fine either way with ghci. Maybe the text is just a tad outdated?
2024-06-04 21:10:43 +0200anpad(~pandeyan@user/anpad) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in)
2024-06-04 21:10:48 +0200 <c_wraith> yes, ghci has been changed quite a lot
2024-06-04 21:10:50 +0200xdminsy(~xdminsy@117.147.70.212) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2024-06-04 21:10:56 +0200 <c_wraith> you can put in bare declarations now
2024-06-04 21:11:02 +0200 <GlenK> I see
2024-06-04 21:11:14 +0200 <GlenK> think I should try and find a more current text then?
2024-06-04 21:11:21 +0200TactfulCitrus(~al@2a02:8012:87a6:0:fbe0:6116:6e30:e047) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2024-06-04 21:11:30 +0200peterbecich(~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com)
2024-06-04 21:11:33 +0200 <c_wraith> that one *is* pretty old now. I don't think it's seen updates in more than 10 years.
2024-06-04 21:11:35 +0200anpad(~pandeyan@user/anpad)
2024-06-04 21:12:02 +0200 <GlenK> gotcha. thanks
2024-06-04 21:12:19 +0200 <c_wraith> But most criticisms I see of it are more of the form "it needs more exercises". If you're comfortable testing things on your own (which it seems like you are), you can probably still get a decent way with it.
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2024-06-04 21:16:27 +0200 <EvanR> what would be the more current LYAH
2024-06-04 21:16:30 +0200 <EvanR> thing
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2024-06-04 21:23:49 +0200 <yin> this one seems popular https://haskellbook.com/
2024-06-04 21:24:09 +0200 <EvanR> oh yeah he was in this channel for a while
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2024-06-04 21:24:24 +0200 <ncf> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell
2024-06-04 21:24:44 +0200 <EvanR> oooo wikibooks
2024-06-04 21:26:05 +0200 <geekosaur> @where PiH
2024-06-04 21:26:05 +0200 <lambdabot> "Programming in Haskell" by Graham Hutton in 2007-01-15,2016-09-01 at <http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~pszgmh/pih.html>
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2024-06-04 21:50:30 +0200 <monochrom> A decade ago I recommended haskellbook.com. Then I saw one the authors Christopher complaining that people recommend things they haven't read. So I realized I haven't read his book, so I apply his principle and I don't recommend it any more. >:)
2024-06-04 21:52:20 +0200 <monochrom> http://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/learn-sources.html have things I have at least took an enough look and can describe to you want they do and don't, so you can decide whether they suit you.
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2024-06-04 22:02:45 +0200 <gdl_> Hi! I'm trying to write a monadic parser with happy using the monadUserState wrapper. I'd like to collect var names during the parsing in a list inside the state monad, and the same time building the parsing tree. All works well but I don't know how to execute the function that modifies the state of the monad and returning the correct object representing the variable declaration. I mean inside the parser rule code. Maybe someone have a hint on this? :) thank
2024-06-04 22:02:45 +0200 <gdl_> you very much
2024-06-04 22:04:03 +0200tromp(~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl)
2024-06-04 22:04:25 +0200 <gdl_> (i know how to do the function individually but have no clue how to execute them together inside the parser rule)
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2024-06-04 22:07:43 +0200 <lxsameer> hey folks, I have a record like { foo :: !(Maybe Text) } is it possible to pattern match against that maybe when defining a function from that record to other types?
2024-06-04 22:08:57 +0200 <ncf> try it and see?
2024-06-04 22:09:03 +0200waleee(~waleee@h-176-10-144-38.NA.cust.bahnhof.se)
2024-06-04 22:10:43 +0200 <lxsameer> ncf: hmmm like bar { foo = x } = x?
2024-06-04 22:11:04 +0200 <lxsameer> or like bar { foo = Nothing } = x?
2024-06-04 22:12:12 +0200 <ncf> compose whatever syntax you use to match on a record constructor with the syntax for matching on Maybe
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2024-06-04 22:15:46 +0200 <lxsameer> thank you
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2024-06-04 22:26:57 +0200 <mauke> gdl_: I've never used happy, but from the manual it seems simple enough
2024-06-04 22:27:08 +0200 <mauke> where are you stuck? do you have an example?
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2024-06-04 22:57:53 +0200 <gdl_> mauke, https://paste.tomsmeding.com/Y41aLpfN I'd like this to execute, so when the production is triggered addvar is executed and then also the object Assign returned
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2024-06-04 23:06:55 +0200 <mauke> gdl_: oh, are you using alex?
2024-06-04 23:07:08 +0200 <mauke> because I don't see monadUserState in happy
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2024-06-04 23:07:50 +0200 <gdl_> Yes I'm using alex too
2024-06-04 23:08:20 +0200tromp(~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl)
2024-06-04 23:09:05 +0200 <mauke> what is addVar?
2024-06-04 23:10:07 +0200 <mauke> also, why do you need a stateful lexer?
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2024-06-04 23:52:42 +0200 <yin> performance wise can there be any difference between `tail` and `drop 1` ?
2024-06-04 23:53:34 +0200 <monochrom> Probably not noticeable.
2024-06-04 23:54:11 +0200terrorjack(~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:87f8::)
2024-06-04 23:54:40 +0200 <Rembane> I wonder if they compile to the same thing, especially with -O2.
2024-06-04 23:57:50 +0200 <geekosaur> they can't, can they? `tail` has to throw if it's an empty list, `drop 1` produces `[]`
2024-06-04 23:58:19 +0200 <yin> my thoughts
2024-06-04 23:58:44 +0200 <Rembane> That's true, for some reason I forgot how they differed.
2024-06-04 23:58:55 +0200 <yin> and you cant know at compile time