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2023-11-26 02:42:46 +0000 <newsham> when implementing an STLC evaluator using an environment,  I'd like to do a lookup on names to get typed values, and get back a value with a specific type.  how do people usually do this?
2023-11-26 02:43:45 +0000 <newsham> by construction the types should always match, but a normal map stores values of a single concrete type, and i'd like to be able to store different typed things in the environment.
2023-11-26 02:43:59 +0000 <geekosaur> @hackage dependent-map
2023-11-26 02:43:59 +0000 <lambdabot> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/dependent-map
2023-11-26 02:44:14 +0000 <geekosaur> not that that's necessarily the best way
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2023-11-26 02:45:24 +0000 <newsham> do you have opinions on whats the best way?
2023-11-26 02:45:32 +0000 <geekosaur> no, sorry
2023-11-26 02:49:34 +0000 <EvanR> newsham, it's possible implement the stlc program as a well-typed GADT
2023-11-26 02:52:11 +0000 <newsham> thats what i'm going for. https://pastebin.com/GXNNye85
2023-11-26 02:52:29 +0000 <newsham> where this simple example supports some integer expressions as well
2023-11-26 02:52:49 +0000 <EvanR> you can use an environment of type Map String Any, which if you did type-checking correctly, could use unsafeCoerce to get the correct value out. Which is what dependent-map does behind the scenes
2023-11-26 02:53:07 +0000 <newsham> and I can coerce Any to what I want?
2023-11-26 02:53:26 +0000 <EvanR> you can unsafeCoerce it to whatever it originally was
2023-11-26 02:54:01 +0000 <EvanR> if you make a mistake, bad things happen
2023-11-26 02:54:16 +0000 <newsham> i think that will be fine for my little example
2023-11-26 02:54:18 +0000 <newsham> thank you
2023-11-26 02:55:40 +0000 <EvanR> another way is something like HList for the environment
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2023-11-26 02:58:02 +0000 <EvanR> another way is higher order abstract syntax, where the lambda is implemented using (type-safe) host language function type
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2023-11-26 03:00:52 +0000 <newsham> like `eval env (LamAbs nm e) = \arg -> let env' = bind env nm e in eval env' e` ?
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2023-11-26 03:13:54 +0000 <newsham> hmm.. instead of `Any` would `Dynamic` work here?  to give runtime checking of safety
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2023-11-26 03:26:01 +0000 <c_wraith> Dynamic would work.
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2023-11-26 03:26:34 +0000 <c_wraith> there might be ways to make type errors compile errors instead of runtime, but at least Dynamic will prevent them at runtime
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2023-11-26 04:18:03 +0000 <newsham> I was able to get it to work with `Any` and `unsafeCoerce`.  I cant seem to get it to work with `Dyn`: http://tpcg.io/_489XQK.
2023-11-26 04:18:14 +0000 <newsham> `No instance for (Typeable a) arising from a use of `fromDynamic'`
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2023-11-26 04:28:37 +0000 <newsham> i'm guessing due to polymorphism
2023-11-26 04:30:17 +0000 <newsham> but shouldnt all this be monomorphized already?
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2023-11-26 04:44:46 +0000 <EvanR> to use Dynamic you probably need to add Typeable constraints everywhere, perhaps in your GADT constructors
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2023-11-26 04:47:23 +0000 <EvanR> e.g. get :: Env -> String -> Val a has no Typeable constraint so fromDynamic won't work
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2023-11-26 05:13:07 +0000 <ski> probably only would need `Typeable' on `LamApp', i think
2023-11-26 05:14:55 +0000 <ski> newsham : oh, and you ought to define `showsPrec', not `show', in the `Show' instance
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2023-11-26 05:16:16 +0000 <ski> ah, right, it's values you convert to `Dynamic'. so `ValFunc', rather than `LamApp', then
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2023-11-26 23:21:26 +0000 <Fijxu> test!
2023-11-26 23:21:40 +0000 <geekosaur> pass
2023-11-26 23:21:43 +0000 <geekosaur> and welcome
2023-11-26 23:22:07 +0000 <Fijxu> o/
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2023-11-26 23:35:35 +0000 <Axman6> Gooood mooorrrning #Haskell!
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2023-11-26 23:37:02 +0000 <Fijxu> gm
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2023-11-26 23:37:16 +0000 <Fijxu> I don't know anything about haskell but anyways gm ^.^
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2023-11-26 23:37:49 +0000 <jackdk> That's what the channel is for
2023-11-26 23:38:41 +0000 <Axman6> To learn, about Haskell!
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2023-11-26 23:39:58 +0000 <Axman6> Fijxu: can we help change that?
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2023-11-26 23:44:59 +0000 <Fijxu> Axman6: Probably, I am currently learning C but I don't see any real world uses for haskell when C or C++ can be used
2023-11-26 23:45:32 +0000 <Fijxu> Or at least I don't have any project in mind involving haskell
2023-11-26 23:45:49 +0000 <Fijxu> I like embedded programming :p
2023-11-26 23:48:06 +0000 <Axman6> As someone who's spent a decade using Haskell professionally, I would have to disagree :)
2023-11-26 23:48:42 +0000 <Axman6> There are some excellent projects for using Haskell for embedded systems, particularly coming out of NASA (by Galois)
2023-11-26 23:50:03 +0000 <monochrom> Unpopular opinion: It is actually better to learn before there is a "project".
2023-11-26 23:50:49 +0000 <jackdk> monochrom: Why? You give up the motivation of an explicit goal, so I assume you see something of greater value than that in exchange. What is it?
2023-11-26 23:51:28 +0000 <monochrom> Actually learning the toolset for what it really is, instead of jumping to the gun with XY problems inspired fixation on a short-term goal.
2023-11-26 23:51:50 +0000 <jackdk> Yes, it will make it easy to X-Y yourself, and I remember struggling with that.
2023-11-26 23:52:35 +0000 <monochrom> "I want to learn programming in this language" is enough motivation.
2023-11-26 23:52:51 +0000 <Fijxu> Depends of the person
2023-11-26 23:53:09 +0000 <monochrom> As opposed to "I heard that Python is good for this fad called ML so here I am learning Python for ML".
2023-11-26 23:53:11 +0000 <Fijxu> That doesn't motivates me unless I have a project in mind
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2023-11-26 23:53:55 +0000 <monochrom> Computer programming is a life-long project. Google for "get good at anything in 10 years".
2023-11-26 23:56:10 +0000 <Fijxu> I saw something like that like 2 weeks ago
2023-11-26 23:56:11 +0000 <int-e> get good at clickbait in three easy steps
2023-11-26 23:56:35 +0000 <jackdk> Seems like a lot of effort. Don't you have one weird trick to make it easier?
2023-11-26 23:56:45 +0000 <int-e> (number 3 will surprise you)
2023-11-26 23:57:12 +0000 <Fijxu> For now I am taking an x86-64 assembly course while learning C at the same time
2023-11-26 23:57:30 +0000 <Fijxu> because it is fun :p
2023-11-26 23:57:55 +0000Axman6agrees with monochrom and thinks the "I'll learn a language by building a project" makes you decide to ignore things you think are unimportant, but you actually need to learn
2023-11-26 23:59:10 +0000 <Axman6> Fijxu: "I don't see any real world uses for haskell when C or C++ can be used" you might want to let Facebook know that, their entire spam filtering infrastructure is written in Haskell