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2023-10-01 00:37:10 +0200 <asivitz> Anyone know how libraries are built on MacOS? (e.g. via stack). I ask because I'm trying to use the vulkan package, but the resulting library is invalid. It has a library reference to "@rpath/libvulkan.1.dylib" but there's no LC_RPATH that contains the path to that library (/usr/local/lib). The verbose output doesn't seem to indicate anything
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2023-10-01 01:20:02 +0200 <asivitz> well it seems like there was some change with the linker with xcode 15 such that it no longer looks in /usr/local/lib. Not sure if that's a bug or if there's anything the haskell tooling can do going forward
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2023-10-01 09:06:28 +0200 <haskellbridge> <s​m> asivitz you could also try #haskell-stack:matrix.org
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2023-10-01 16:15:32 +0200 <mikko> how does one enable the hover plugin for haskell-language-server? i'm trying to write a simple LSP client but it keeps saying "No plugin enabled for SMethod_TextDocumentHover": https://bpa.st/raw/K3XA
2023-10-01 16:16:03 +0200 <mikko> even though i'm specifying the plugin in the initializationOptions like described here https://haskell-language-server.readthedocs.io/en/latest/configuration.html
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2023-10-01 16:22:19 +0200 <mikko> oh the language server has their own irc channel too, let me try there
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2023-10-01 17:45:00 +0200 <wroathe> I'm trying to tinker around with printing the heap at runtime using Cabal's ability to compile and link in C sources, and they make a routine available, rts_listMiscRoots, which calls a callback for each root closure
2023-10-01 17:45:29 +0200 <wroathe> I can work with these objects, but I also see that there's some handy routines in Printer.h and Printer.c within the rts folder in GHC that are being marked as private
2023-10-01 17:45:37 +0200 <wroathe> I'm wondering if there's a way to access these
2023-10-01 17:46:12 +0200 <wroathe> In particular https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/blob/df1f5e41da9496c219c942668a84534752be1a95/rts/Printer.h#L31
2023-10-01 17:46:41 +0200 <wroathe> Which would let me access function names from the debug symbols
2023-10-01 17:47:46 +0200 <wroathe> As of right now what it seems like to me is that I'd have to write my own routine that loads the debugger symbols from the executable and does the lookup, but it would pain me to do that given that the functions in Printer.c already do so
2023-10-01 17:48:08 +0200 <geekosaur> that's probably a question for #ghc, but are you aware of the ghc-heap package? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc-heap
2023-10-01 17:49:52 +0200 <wroathe> I just stumbled upon that last night, and I had it earmarked here to look at.
2023-10-01 17:50:34 +0200 <wroathe> It seems like to interrogate the heap at runtime the RTS needs to be paused, and so I need to see if this still requires that and if this gives me direct access to the debug symbols for these objects
2023-10-01 17:51:18 +0200 <wroathe> And yeah, good looking out. I didn't realize there was a separate GHC channel. GHC has become so dominant that I think of it as being one and the same with haskell.
2023-10-01 17:53:44 +0200 <wroathe> brb
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2023-10-01 18:11:27 +0200 <dmj`> wroathe: the external-stg-interpreter can dump the heap at runtime
2023-10-01 18:12:01 +0200 <wroathe> dmj`: Thanks
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2023-10-01 18:25:05 +0200 <tomsmeding> wroathe: quite apart from ghc being one and the same as haskell (which, some would say, is kind of true nowadays, for better or for worse), the difference between #haskell and #ghc is mostly just topic :)
2023-10-01 18:25:16 +0200 <tomsmeding> and expertise
2023-10-01 18:25:35 +0200 <geekosaur> #ghc is about ghc development, this is the user channel
2023-10-01 18:26:16 +0200 <geekosaur> if you're poking at ghc internals you almost certainly want to talk to the devs, especially if private decls are involved
2023-10-01 18:28:48 +0200 <wroathe> geekosaur: tomsmeding: Totally get it. I was just commenting on how singular GHC is these days
2023-10-01 18:28:56 +0200 <wroathe> I'll ask about it there
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2023-10-01 18:57:35 +0200 <Fieldofnodes> Hi, I am new here.
2023-10-01 18:58:11 +0200 <geekosaur> welcome!
2023-10-01 18:58:20 +0200wroathe(~wroathe@user/wroathe) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2023-10-01 18:59:34 +0200 <Fieldofnodes> Thanks
2023-10-01 19:00:26 +0200 <Fieldofnodes> For chatting here, what is a good etiquette on finding channels or interesting topics etc?
2023-10-01 19:02:04 +0200 <ghoulguy> Generally you will take your own interests and see if there are corresponding channels
2023-10-01 19:02:22 +0200 <geekosaur> you can send private messages to alis to search for channels on particular topics
2023-10-01 19:02:24 +0200 <Fieldofnodes> Cool. Is there a channel browse thing?
2023-10-01 19:02:28 +0200 <Fieldofnodes> Cool
2023-10-01 19:02:30 +0200 <ghoulguy> https://libera.chat/guides/findingchannels
2023-10-01 19:02:40 +0200 <Fieldofnodes> 👍
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2023-10-01 21:15:23 +0200 <madnight> Is there any way to find all instances of a typeclass (in base) in all libraries on hackage?
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2023-10-01 21:27:34 +0200 <siers> is accelerate not maintained any more? nix shows it up as broken
2023-10-01 21:31:05 +0200 <nullie> maybe nix package is broken
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2023-10-01 21:36:29 +0200 <nullie> https://gutier.io/post/development-fixing-broken-haskell-packages-nixpkgs/
2023-10-01 21:39:59 +0200 <haskellbridge> <I​nst> You should try to import the package from Git, unfortunately.
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2023-10-01 22:11:49 +0200 <nullie> which room is this channel on matrix?
2023-10-01 22:12:16 +0200 <geekosaur> #haskell-irc:matrix.org
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