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2022-07-06 00:33:25 +0000 <Haskelytic> for such a pure language, using cabal feels dirty :)
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2022-07-06 00:42:13 +0000 <Axman6> wow, quiet night. Morning all
2022-07-06 00:42:36 +0000 <Haskelytic> It's a beautiful raining morning over here
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2022-07-06 02:39:08 +0000 <Axman6> Pretty cloudy and cold here at the moment, but no rain
2022-07-06 02:39:14 +0000 <Axman6> Haskelytic: where are you?
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2022-07-06 03:39:14 +0000 <Haskelytic> I'm not sure if my brain is fried but running `fmap length Just [1,2,3]` yields `1` at the REPL
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2022-07-06 03:39:36 +0000 <Haskelytic> I thought it would mean `(((fmap length) Just) [1,2,3])` which is ill-typed?
2022-07-06 03:39:51 +0000 <Axman6> functions are functors
2022-07-06 03:40:18 +0000 <dolio> > length (Just [1,2,3])
2022-07-06 03:40:19 +0000 <Haskelytic> ohhh hahah totally forgot about that
2022-07-06 03:40:20 +0000 <lambdabot> 1
2022-07-06 03:40:26 +0000 <Axman6> so wehat you've actually written is length . Just $ [1,2,3]
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2022-07-06 04:48:38 +0000 <chreekat> Maybe is Foldable 🙃
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2022-07-06 04:49:26 +0000 <chreekat> > length Nothing
2022-07-06 04:49:29 +0000 <lambdabot> 0
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2022-07-06 04:59:16 +0000 <int-e> > length (1,2)
2022-07-06 04:59:18 +0000 <lambdabot> 1
2022-07-06 05:00:09 +0000 <int-e> > sum (1,2)
2022-07-06 05:00:12 +0000 <lambdabot> 2
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2022-07-06 05:04:23 +0000 <int-e> > map isNegativeZero [sum [-0], sum ((), -0)]
2022-07-06 05:04:24 +0000 <lambdabot> [False,True]
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2022-07-06 05:23:22 +0000 <Axman6> > isNegativeZero ((-0) + (-0))
2022-07-06 05:23:24 +0000 <lambdabot> True
2022-07-06 05:23:29 +0000 <Axman6> > isNegativeZero ((-0) + (0))
2022-07-06 05:23:31 +0000 <lambdabot> False
2022-07-06 05:23:36 +0000 <Axman6> > isNegativeZero ((0) + (-0))
2022-07-06 05:23:37 +0000 <lambdabot> False
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2022-07-06 05:26:49 +0000 <dknite> Bruh, just use ghci :)
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2022-07-06 13:27:55 +0000 <gnyeki> > isNegativeZero 0
2022-07-06 13:27:56 +0000 <lambdabot> False
2022-07-06 13:28:13 +0000 <gnyeki> > isNegativeZero (-1)
2022-07-06 13:28:15 +0000 <lambdabot> False
2022-07-06 13:29:37 +0000 <Chai-T-Rex> What is a good repository for updated ghc packages on Ubuntu 22.04, since hvr's PPA seems to not have been updated in over a year and doesn't have a version for 22.04.
2022-07-06 13:30:31 +0000merijn(~merijn@c-001-001-028.client.esciencecenter.eduvpn.nl)
2022-07-06 13:30:48 +0000 <geekosaur> ghcup is currently recommended. I don't know what you do for CI, aside from ghcup in noninteractive mode (controlled via environment variables)
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2022-07-06 13:49:50 +0000 <fvr> does ghc not yet use source hash to avoid recompilation instead of modification time? I read on the wiki that it does, but testing it with 9.2 shows that it doesn't
2022-07-06 13:49:59 +0000[itchyjunk](~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470)
2022-07-06 13:50:44 +0000 <[exa]> fvr: did you check using a hash collision?
2022-07-06 13:51:15 +0000coot(~coot@213.134.190.95) (Quit: coot)
2022-07-06 13:52:14 +0000 <Chai-T-Rex> geekosaur: Thanks
2022-07-06 13:52:37 +0000 <maerwald> ghcup is non-interactive by default (except for `ghcup tui`)
2022-07-06 13:53:01 +0000 <geekosaur> doesn't the install still ask questions unless you have envars set?
2022-07-06 13:53:14 +0000 <fvr> I am doing `touch --date=@0 Main.hs`, recompile, change the file, then touch to same time again and ghc doesn't recompile
2022-07-06 13:53:15 +0000 <maerwald> geekosaur: you mean the bootstrap script (that's not ghcup itself)
2022-07-06 13:53:18 +0000 <maerwald> yes
2022-07-06 13:53:44 +0000 <maerwald> https://www.haskell.org/ghcup/guide/#continuous-integration
2022-07-06 13:54:41 +0000 <fvr> and with the same source contents, touching the file is causing ghc to recompile. ghc --show-iface Main.hi is identical (with the same source contents)
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2022-07-06 13:56:34 +0000 <[exa]> fvr: wait where on the wiki did you find that?
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2022-07-06 13:57:16 +0000 <fvr> https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/wikis/commentary/compiler/recompilation-avoidance
2022-07-06 13:57:23 +0000 <fvr> in the section "How does it work?"
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2022-07-06 13:59:59 +0000 <[exa]> fvr: ok wow I knew about the interface file hashes but didn't notice there's source hashing too
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2022-07-06 14:26:48 +0000 <kronicmage> @unmtl MaybeT (State Int) a
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2022-07-06 22:48:52 +0000 <hololeap> can you use ViewPatterns like this: f (q -> x) (q -> y) where q = ...
2022-07-06 22:49:06 +0000 <hololeap> it seems like it doesn't think q is in scope
2022-07-06 22:49:20 +0000 <dolio> Yeah, patterns scope before where.
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2022-07-06 22:49:49 +0000 <hololeap> too bad
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2022-07-06 22:50:49 +0000 <hololeap> kronicmage: does conduit-extra have a UDP sink?
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2022-07-06 22:52:06 +0000 <kronicmage> It has socket sinks and socket producers
2022-07-06 22:52:13 +0000 <hololeap> looks like you have to set up a socket first
2022-07-06 22:52:33 +0000 <geekosaur> only helps if it supports UDP sockets. sadly many people think socket means TCP
2022-07-06 22:52:38 +0000 <n1essa> Hi, I've been experimenting with literate haskell and having a small issue. I like to use this vim config to run the current buffer `autocmd FileType haskell map <F5> :w !runghc<CR>`. Adding a new line for lhaskell works except runghc doesn't know the input is literate haskell. I've been looking at the options and have experimented with -F and -pgmF to specify unlit but haven't been able to get it to work
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2022-07-06 22:53:52 +0000 <hololeap> kronicmage: I haven't tried it, but this might be what you need: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/conduit-connection
2022-07-06 22:54:56 +0000 <hololeap> wait, does connection have udp support?
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2022-07-06 22:55:32 +0000 <hololeap> I thought it would, but I guess it doesn't
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2022-07-06 22:58:55 +0000 <hololeap> @hackage udp-conduit -- ?
2022-07-06 22:58:55 +0000 <lambdabot> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/udp-conduit -- ?
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