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| 2026-02-02 22:27:04 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <nemme> Heya |
| 2026-02-02 22:27:04 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | ... long message truncated: https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/kf8nh.com/bJmhnSdYVFZpYDjjtmiFLZBe/qL_nwvBtQEg (3 lines) |
| 2026-02-02 22:39:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> it's been started several times and never finished. most recent attempt was https://discourse.haskell.org/t/haskell-wlroots-bindings/8426 and https://discourse.haskell.org/t/tiny-wlhs-a-hybrid-haskell-and-c-wayland-compositor/10803 |
| 2026-02-02 22:41:37 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> liskin suggested (https://matrix.to/#/%21arvCkuMSDjUpxdkOoH%3Amatrix.org/%24CviURgZwDPgU4Cg0slJEH8nP4cvp5-t_1zIwhx0S…) smithay as an alternative starting point but I don't think anyone's taken him up on it yet |
| 2026-02-02 22:43:45 +0100 | <liskin> | Another idea I had the other day to was to invite people to meet me somewhere in London and try hacking on it together |
| 2026-02-02 22:44:37 +0100 | <liskin> | But I'll probably need to wait a few more months until I'm out of the worst bit of burnout |
| 2026-02-02 22:44:47 +0100 | <liskin> | I have time, but not energy |
| 2026-02-02 22:46:10 +0100 | <liskin> | (surely there must be someone in London who'd be interested, but then, maybe not, it's not exactly the right place for free software enthusiasts, or is it?) |
| 2026-02-02 22:46:51 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> central europe and asia look to be the real hotbeds to me |
| 2026-02-02 22:48:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <nemme> geekosaur: I'm glad that there are at least attempts |
| 2026-02-02 22:49:42 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <nemme> X11 just doesn't have low enough latency for me, so I was kinda forced to switch to wl |
| 2026-02-02 22:50:07 +0100 | <liskin> | geekosaur: yeah that's my view as well - probably socioeconomic reasons or something |
| 2026-02-02 22:51:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <nemme> I'll probably use niri for the time being, which also uses smithay instead of wl-roots |
| 2026-02-02 22:52:27 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <nemme> +(with disabled animations) |
| 2026-02-02 22:54:38 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> sadly we've been collecting donations with an eye toward helping pay for a wayland port, but we don't have enough to actually pay someone to sit down and write it for us |
| 2026-02-02 22:56:29 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <nemme> Hmm... would be an awesome project tho |
| 2026-02-02 22:57:32 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> no, that's something else 😀 more seriously, with the number of times it's derailed I sometimes wonder if it's worth doing |
| 2026-02-02 22:58:19 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> especially since I know a number of people have considered pitching in and deciding not to because there's no way to make the existing contribs compatible with it and wayland doesn't support some of the things most people expect from xmonad |
| 2026-02-02 23:00:30 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <nemme> Well, maybe we should wait until pheonix (modern upgrade of X11) gets released |
| 2026-02-02 23:01:06 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> an alternative path forward there is wayland-x11, but I think it and xwayland still have shortcomings |
| 2026-02-02 23:01:19 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> that said, they seem to be being worked on |
| 2026-02-02 23:03:51 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <nemme> * (https://git.dec05eba.com/phoenix/about/) |
| 2026-02-02 23:04:42 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> hm, phoenix sounds in theory like a good idea, but I have to wonder if they've really examined the protocol. it's oriented toward ancient graphics workstations where every monitor had its own independent framebuffer card, and it shows |
| 2026-02-02 23:06:50 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur> reading on, I guess they have to some extent. but blithely talking about extending xrandr for various things (in particular per-screen dpi) makes me think they haven't yet realized just how much of a godawful hack xrandr is |