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| 2026-03-10 17:32:16 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <ijouw> Those programs (ab)use those same features that may be undesirable for security. |
| 2026-03-10 17:31:15 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <ijouw> There are other niche things like input visualisation, which are not supported by design (last I checked). |
| 2026-03-10 17:30:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and tbh wayland's pretty much right there, it's really hard to configure X11 to block password scraping for example |
| 2026-03-10 17:30:20 +0100 | <Guest59> | uh I didn't know that |
| 2026-03-10 17:29:56 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you could do that just as well with wayland, the problem there is about security |
| 2026-03-10 17:29:11 +0100 | <Guest59> | yeah but as a result of that u can do fun stuff like ssh -x |
| 2026-03-10 17:28:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (the really annoying thing is that wayland's design _can_ support that but I think still doesn't) |
| 2026-03-10 17:27:56 +0100 | <geekosaur> | rendering |
| 2026-03-10 17:27:55 +0100 | <geekosaur> | its whole architecture is designed for 1980s engineering workstations where every display had its own framebuffer card (see x11's Screen), so a really ugly hack is needed for multiple displays on PC-style video cards and that hack + ancient protocol means different resolutions on different displays can't be made to work without a protocol overhaul to plumb screen information through to places that currently can't get it, like client side font |
| 2026-03-10 17:26:06 +0100 | <Guest59> | I mostly really don't want to switch wm |
| 2026-03-10 17:25:31 +0100 | <Guest59> | yeah I mean x11 just works |
| 2026-03-10 17:25:26 +0100 | <geekosaur> | …that said, there are a bunch of things that can't be made to work right in x11 |
| 2026-03-10 17:25:10 +0100 | <geekosaur> | there are still a decent number of things that don't work in wayland yet |
| 2026-03-10 17:24:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | which is angering a lot of people, because not only are there many who don't want to move, there are still many who can't |
| 2026-03-10 17:24:09 +0100 | <Guest59> | idk what their problem is |
| 2026-03-10 17:23:51 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and have said so quite clearly |
| 2026-03-10 17:23:43 +0100 | <geekosaur> | they absolutely are |
| 2026-03-10 17:23:22 +0100 | <Guest59> | I think they're actively trying to get ppl to go to wayland for some reason |
| 2026-03-10 17:22:48 +0100 | <Guest59> | right, that's crazy for gtk to drop support already |
| 2026-03-10 17:22:42 +0100 | <geekosaur> | also some folks have already migrated to qt/kde because of past gtk support issues, and more may do so to retain compatibility |