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| 2026-03-12 03:15:08 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | Is there something wrong with my laptop and/or my Linux settings? |
| 2026-03-12 03:15:05 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> So, for some reason, my laptop's built-in keyboard has stopped doing key-repeat. No matter how much I hold down a key, Linux only ever registers it a single time. |
| 2026-03-12 00:21:47 +0100 | stackdroid18 | (~stackdroi@user/stackdroid) () |
| 2026-03-11 21:45:54 +0100 | scardinal | (~supreme@0x573d64a9.static.cust.fastspeed.dk) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2026-03-11 21:42:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | resizing it manually afterward eorked fine, but next time you started your X session it would do it again |
| 2026-03-11 21:41:48 +0100 | <geekosaur> | this had the amusing result that, back in the days when it had a frame size bug, it would get into a fight with kdewm that led to its initial window size visibly stepping down to about 3x2 |
| 2026-03-11 21:40:06 +0100 | <geekosaur> | emacs has a certain tendency to assume that the window manager (or for that matter anything else) should be subordinate to it |
| 2026-03-11 21:39:06 +0100 | <geekosaur> | or reconfigure it with emacs commands instead of the mouse |
| 2026-03-11 21:38:42 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I don't have an emacs confoiguration that saves frame information; if you do, you might need to turn it off or manually edit the save |
| 2026-03-11 21:25:20 +0100 | <geekosaur> | those together (especially the second) sound like it's emacs doing it and the most you can accomplish from xmonad is starting a war with it (that is, you get a resize loop) |
| 2026-03-11 20:31:06 +0100 | stackdroid18 | (~stackdroi@user/stackdroid) stackdroid |
| 2026-03-11 20:04:19 +0100 | ectospasm | (~ectospasm@user/ectospasm) ectospasm |
| 2026-03-11 19:54:51 +0100 | Enrico63 | (~Enrico63@host-82-61-84-117.retail.telecomitalia.it) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2026-03-11 19:37:37 +0100 | ectospasm | (~ectospasm@user/ectospasm) (Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1) |
| 2026-03-11 18:53:13 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <eldritchcookie> it also doesn't allow me to manually fix the window with the mouse. |
| 2026-03-11 18:52:12 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <eldritchcookie> i thought it was something i did wrong but i tested with another application and it works fine, when i use doFullFloat on emacs it covers more than the whole window vertically on the bottom and misses a little horizontally on the right. Are there workarounds for correctly floating emacs? |
| 2026-03-11 17:52:32 +0100 | <liskin> | Even if, it'd look different than what X does |
| 2026-03-11 17:52:17 +0100 | <liskin> | Yeah but maybe use the brain a bit? We're not trying to make a generic WM interface... |
| 2026-03-11 17:50:26 +0100 | <geekosaur> | there was even a proposal to directly support it that got shot down for "security reasons" |
| 2026-03-11 17:49:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | the reason people miss it is wayland docs and devs tell you that's insecure and you shouldn't do it |
| 2026-03-11 17:37:08 +0100 | <liskin> | I mean actually maybe that's good. Make me angrier and I might just sit down and fucking do this at last. |
| 2026-03-11 17:36:24 +0100 | <liskin> | Sorry for the caps but how does everyone keep missing this bit? Makes me furious. |
| 2026-03-11 17:36:04 +0100 | <liskin> | You REALLY FUCKING DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RESTART YOUR WHOLE COMPOSITOR |
| 2026-03-11 17:35:29 +0100 | <liskin> | Xmonad is configured by compiling - reload of configuration means restart. |
| 2026-03-11 17:34:59 +0100 | <liskin> | (the most I managed was just under 2 years - that's completely unrealistic in the Wayland world) |
| 2026-03-11 17:34:30 +0100 | <liskin> | In X11 you can restart xmonad a million times while still letting the X server run for months or even years |
| 2026-03-11 17:34:00 +0100 | <liskin> | Also there's this big fundamental limitation of Wayland design - if the compositor crashes or needs to restart, your whole session goes down |
| 2026-03-11 17:33:05 +0100 | <liskin> | Even Rust folks struggled to get wlroots bindings to feel good, that's why smithay is thriving these days. It's just better to do a Rust native Wayland library |
| 2026-03-11 17:32:23 +0100 | <liskin> | And also it's much harder to write/maintain bindings to C APIs |
| 2026-03-11 17:31:59 +0100 | <liskin> | Haskell is garbage collected - so that means latency might suffer unpredictably |
| 2026-03-11 17:31:01 +0100 | <liskin> | 2 years ago that would mean being limited and being behind the protocols supported by gnome/kde/wlroots, but I think these days smithay is fine |
| 2026-03-11 17:30:35 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Enrico Maria De Angelis> What's fundamentally flawed with doing it in Haskell (out of curiosity, and with zero prerequisites to understand the answer, probably). |
| 2026-03-11 17:30:21 +0100 | <liskin> | Smithay (the Rust alternative to wlroots) being in a good shape these days means doing it in Rust should be fine |
| 2026-03-11 17:29:41 +0100 | <liskin> | I've been saying for years - let's just do that in Rust or C, and let it rpc to a Haskell window manager. |
| 2026-03-11 17:29:05 +0100 | <liskin> | I still don't know why anyone's trying to have the compositor itself be written in Haskell. |
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