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| 2026-03-22 01:40:08 +0100 | <liskin> | Maybe we just care too much |
| 2026-03-22 01:41:22 +0100 | <liskin> | You're not meant to read the code, just like you don't read the generated assembly unless you're not getting the vector instructions you hoped for |
| 2026-03-22 01:41:51 +0100 | <liskin> | Don't think I can rewire my brain for that just yet |
| 2026-03-22 01:42:15 +0100 | <liskin> | Also it's sunny so fuck computers let's attach wheels to feet and drink |
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| 2026-03-22 05:09:22 +0100 | portnov | (~portnov@79.134.10.7) portnov |
| 2026-03-22 08:38:31 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <galactic_starfish> liskin: I tend to kick off a GitHub cloud agent whenever I find a bug in software I use myself. And then if it works OK after I go and build it later, then I consider contributing a more clean version back to the main repo. But yeah, slow af |
| 2026-03-22 08:39:24 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <galactic_starfish> or edge in my usecase * |
| 2026-03-22 08:43:53 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <galactic_starfish> I have been enjoying copilot + good design / architecture efforts and APOSD principles in prompt form... It has been working well professionally, as well as in my hobby projects. |
| 2026-03-22 08:45:06 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <galactic_starfish> I also review everything manually... But most of it tends to be a skim. I also have the agent pause after every TODO step and I'll either adjust its implementation or give it clarifying details that it missed or I didn't specify. |
| 2026-03-22 08:45:43 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <galactic_starfish> Subagents are also crucial... Long running agents have too much context drift / rot... It quickly goes off the rails if it's anything but CRUD. |
| 2026-03-22 08:46:11 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <galactic_starfish> That said, these experiences are mostly in C#, Java, Typescript and Nix... Not Haskell. |
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| 2026-03-22 20:25:02 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> liskin: Yeah, I'm definitely not ready for that :D |
| 2026-03-22 20:25:55 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> Maybe it's because I don't do this for a job (yet, I guess, with the current situation in academia…), but I was always a bit of a "the path is the goal" type of person |
| 2026-03-22 20:26:47 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> So using these things for most (all? some?) of my coding just feels like I should rather change the kinds of projects I'm working on, if they're that boring I want to outsource them |
| 2026-03-22 20:28:24 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> That said, trying to clone "wayland-rs" does sound like something I might want to try next week-ish (from some preliminary tests it's not going super well though… it wanted to use "peek" and "unsafePerformIO" for reading the wire protocol from a bytestring :D Three more cleanup commits it is) |
| 2026-03-22 20:49:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | write the core, aibro contrib? 😛 |
| 2026-03-22 20:51:10 +0100 | <geekosaur> | the real question isn't about protocols anyway, it's how do you replace things we use a lot but barely exist (if that much) in wayland. like ManageHooks really wanting Xrm foo that nobody uses even in the X11 world these days |
| 2026-03-22 21:01:04 +0100 | werneta_ | (~werneta@71.83.160.242) werneta |
| 2026-03-22 22:19:19 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <galactic_starfish> Solid: For me, it's less boredom, more that I have so many ideas that implementation speed becomes a very real bottleneck. It's more of a design process, and less of a coding one. |
| 2026-03-22 22:19:22 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | I totally get enjoying the fine-grained details though. For the longest while I've enjoyed surmounting direct implementation hurdles. |
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