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2025-10-09 00:22:55 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> hmm I need to get appindicator support - I'musing stalonetray at the moment... anyone have other suggestions?
2025-10-09 00:34:08 +0200 <geekosaur> trayer-srg?
2025-10-09 00:36:10 +0200 <geekosaur> some distros (notably the Debian-derived ones) have adopted it as "trayer"; the original version was pretty limited
2025-10-09 00:40:22 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> i'll have a look, thanks !
2025-10-09 00:53:44 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> one thing i haven't quite figured out is how to restart xmonad in a way that respects new struts... without logging out essentially
2025-10-09 00:54:16 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> i think i have alt-shift-space bound to reset layouts, but that doesnt spot the new strut
2025-10-09 00:54:41 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> seems harder when using spawnOne instead of having entries in the xmonadrc too
2025-10-09 00:54:50 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> * xmonad-session-rc
2025-10-09 00:59:27 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> oh snixembed works with trayer... and stalonetray, I must have a race in my startup somewhere
2025-10-09 01:07:09 +0200 <geekosaur> what's your xmonad.hs look like? struts should be automatically and dynamically added/removed without any need for a restart
2025-10-09 01:48:08 +0200L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah
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2025-10-09 04:14:54 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> geekosaur: current live one https://gist.github.com/dpnova/476f888132764a630e3fa7b628ac8680
2025-10-09 04:16:23 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> as a side - I can't seem to get rid of borders on xfce4-notifyd popups... the focusDown and copyToAll bits do work though :think
2025-10-09 04:16:29 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> * 🤔 https://gist.github.com/dpnova/476f888132764a630e3fa7b628ac8680#file-xmonad-hs-L172
2025-10-09 04:18:09 +0200 <geekosaur> `avoidStruts` should be outside of the `addTabs`, as should the `mkToggle`s, although I think you'd only notice a problem if your tabs were on the bottom or your systray were on top
2025-10-09 04:19:18 +0200 <geekosaur> (and why do you use both old-style and new-style keybindings?)
2025-10-09 04:20:27 +0200 <geekosaur> manual `manageDocks` shouldn't be needed with the `docks` combinator, but I can't see how that would break things
2025-10-09 04:21:09 +0200 <geekosaur> the `def`s on lines 227 and 229 should be `desktopConfig` instead
2025-10-09 04:21:40 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> geekosaur: yeah I've been slowly shifting over :S
2025-10-09 04:21:54 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> let me check.. thanks!
2025-10-09 04:24:32 +0200 <geekosaur> hm, I had no idea that hasBorder stuff was there. I'm not at all certain it would work in a ManageHook, sending a message during initial management isn't guaranteed to do the right thing because the layout hasn't had a chance to run yet
2025-10-09 04:25:20 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> ah! ok - fair enough... I do recall wondering about that but it was so long ago I can't remember where I got to with it
2025-10-09 04:25:48 +0200 <geekosaur> (it's run just after `windows` applies the `manageHook` to the new window while incorporating it into the `StackSet`)
2025-10-09 04:27:21 +0200 <geekosaur> right, I'm not currently doing it from my `manageHook`, but I would normally just zero its `borderWidth` directly
2025-10-09 04:27:51 +0200 <geekosaur> `ask >>= \w -> liftX (withDisplay (\
2025-10-09 04:27:55 +0200 <geekosaur> whoops
2025-10-09 04:28:06 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> oh - you can do that? perhaps that's the missing piece for me, I'm trying to do too much in the manageHook
2025-10-09 04:28:44 +0200 <geekosaur> `ask >>= \w -> liftX (withDisplay (\d -> io $ setWindowBorderWidth d w 0))`
2025-10-09 04:29:02 +0200 <geekosaur> not the prettiest thing but guaranteed to work
2025-10-09 04:29:19 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> that's in the layoutHook ?
2025-10-09 04:29:43 +0200 <geekosaur> manageHook
2025-10-09 04:29:53 +0200 <geekosaur> that replaces the `hasBorder False`
2025-10-09 04:30:04 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> ah
2025-10-09 04:30:17 +0200 <geekosaur> probably you maker it a function and then replace the `hasBorder False` with it
2025-10-09 04:30:22 +0200 <geekosaur> *make it
2025-10-09 04:31:40 +0200 <geekosaur> "do too much in the manageHook" isn't usually a thing, although you do need to be careful with where you put `insertPosition` (which I saw you had commented out) because it can break other `ManageHook`s
2025-10-09 04:32:06 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> yeah - something about the type is making composeAll unhappy atm ... I chose a hell of a time to disable my hs lsp in nvim
2025-10-09 04:32:53 +0200 <geekosaur> hold on, I blasted that out without checking, ouldn't be the first time I got it slightly wrong 🙂
2025-10-09 04:33:08 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> yeah the insertPosition didn't work the way I wanted - was trying to move some annoying popups to the background rather than stealing focus
2025-10-09 04:33:38 +0200 <geekosaur> hm, type looks right here. what did you try that failed?
2025-10-09 04:34:02 +0200 <geekosaur> ask >>= \w -> liftX (withDisplay (\d -> io $ setWindowBorderWidth d w 0))
2025-10-09 04:34:02 +0200 <geekosaur> :: Query ()
2025-10-09 04:34:12 +0200 <geekosaur> ohm wait
2025-10-09 04:34:16 +0200 <geekosaur> not quite right
2025-10-09 04:34:25 +0200 <geekosaur> needs a `>> idHook` on the end
2025-10-09 04:35:16 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> "[ className =? "Xfce4-notifyd" --> ask >>= \w -> liftX (withDisplay (\d -> io $ setWindowBorderWidth d w 0))"
2025-10-09 04:35:17 +0200 <haskellbridge> ... long message truncated: https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/kf8nh.com/qrHlRHAMRIEiiqfdrfCUnlae/aCksFGViisg (13 lines)
2025-10-09 04:35:19 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> ah
2025-10-09 04:35:29 +0200 <geekosaur> it's `Query ()` but needs to be (compatible with) `Query (Endo WindowSet)`
2025-10-09 04:36:13 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> built that time thanks
2025-10-09 04:38:31 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> i dont know how but I still have borders on the notification 🤔
2025-10-09 04:38:32 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/matrix.org/RozoDkobyoIacmazkQEHSWlw/7Nfj3GsTOqU/image.png
2025-10-09 04:39:06 +0200 <geekosaur> hm
2025-10-09 04:39:12 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> setting w 50 also has no impact
2025-10-09 04:39:20 +0200 <geekosaur> either the notification is overriding it or the compositor is.
2025-10-09 04:39:36 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> yeah i wondered about picom
2025-10-09 04:40:02 +0200 <geekosaur> that said the right thing to do with a notification window is actually `doIgnore` because they have no idea what to do with focus anyway
2025-10-09 04:41:01 +0200 <geekosaur> and I don't get borders here despite not doing anything other than doIgnore
2025-10-09 04:42:25 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> ah that works for me - TIL about doIgnore :S
2025-10-09 04:42:54 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> holy hell that is perfect
2025-10-09 04:43:08 +0200 <haskellbridge> <geekosaur (@geekosaur:matrix.org)> shadow-exclude = [
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2025-10-09 04:43:10 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> thanks geekosaur!
2025-10-09 04:43:38 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/matrix.org/jodtWHtBCtHswLwJJFJXJbPO/piC7ogx6YS4/image.png
2025-10-09 04:43:47 +0200 <haskellbridge> <geekosaur (@geekosaur:matrix.org)> change the notification daemon as appropriate and you probably dont care about Sxiv
2025-10-09 04:43:51 +0200 <haskellbridge> <geekosaur (@geekosaur:matrix.org)> * don't
2025-10-09 04:45:51 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> the last thing I'm going to spend time working out one day is how to only round the tops of my xmonad-decoration class windows :rofl
2025-10-09 04:45:54 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> * :rofl:
2025-10-09 04:46:00 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> * 🤣
2025-10-09 04:46:35 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> but such tweaking is something I'd have had more time for before kids etc :P
2025-10-09 04:46:55 +0200 <geekosaur> I don't think picom supports that, sadly
2025-10-09 04:48:04 +0200 <haskellbridge> <dpn> yeah - that was the conclusion I generally arrived at in an attempt to save myself wasting too much time
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