| 2025-09-09 02:42:55 +0000 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:9d11::) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2025-09-09 02:45:27 +0000 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:9d11::) terrorjack |
| 2025-09-09 03:32:55 +0000 | FadedOften | (~OftenFade@user/tisktisk) OftenFaded |
| 2025-09-09 04:46:34 +0000 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-09-09 05:29:06 +0000 | <deebo> | hmm something updated with flameshot and now it creates some sort of window that shifts my layout |
| 2025-09-09 05:29:09 +0000 | <deebo> | anyone else ran into this? |
| 2025-09-09 05:30:30 +0000 | <deebo> | i just have ", ((myModmask .|. shiftMask, xK_s), spawn "flameshot gui")", when i press it now i get the screenshot overlay but my windows are pushed out the top side of the monitor |
| 2025-09-09 06:15:58 +0000 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@5.167.113.60) ChubaDuba |
| 2025-09-09 06:54:11 +0000 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a25a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2025-09-09 07:43:50 +0000 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@5.167.113.60) (Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3) |
| 2025-09-09 07:52:19 +0000 | Solid | (~slot@xmonad/slotThe) slot |
| 2025-09-09 07:53:08 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid (@slot-:matrix.org)> Perhaps you need to tell XMonad to not manage the window that flameshot creates? |
| 2025-09-09 08:02:24 +0000 | <deebo> | indeed, but it's some new thing, and there's no way to use xprop on it |
| 2025-09-09 08:15:33 +0000 | <deebo> | https://github.com/flameshot-org/flameshot/pull/4127 possibly related to this qt6 upgrade |
| 2025-09-09 08:21:42 +0000 | <Solid> | Mh, I just downloaded flameshot 13.1.0 (which should include that PR) and I can't reproduce the behaviour you're talking about |
| 2025-09-09 08:30:49 +0000 | <deebo> | this is what happens for me https://i.imgur.com/iQgRA8e.png, whole screen is offset somehow |
| 2025-09-09 08:31:11 +0000 | <deebo> | but i do have a "weird" monitor layout with two side by side and tv on the wall above the other monitor |
| 2025-09-09 08:31:29 +0000 | <deebo> | f42 is on flameshot 13.0.1 so not fixed yet |
| 2025-09-09 08:33:37 +0000 | <Solid> | Perhaps you'll have to wait for 13.1.0 then |
| 2025-09-09 09:23:55 +0000 | Mion | (~Urist@archlinux/op/MrElendig) (Quit: aliens) |
| 2025-09-09 09:24:50 +0000 | MrElendig | (~Urist@archlinux/op/MrElendig) MrElendig |
| 2025-09-09 10:05:50 +0000 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) tremon |
| 2025-09-09 12:12:00 +0000 | Solid | (~slot@xmonad/slotThe) (Quit: ERC 5.6.1-git (IRC client for GNU Emacs 31.0.50)) |
| 2025-09-09 12:23:12 +0000 | mkoskar | (~mkoskar@user/mkoskar) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-09-09 12:27:52 +0000 | mkoskar | (~mkoskar@user/mkoskar) mkoskar |
| 2025-09-09 12:51:13 +0000 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
| 2025-09-09 13:35:03 +0000 | hightower2 | (~hightower@cpe-94-253-244-59.st.cable.xnet.hr) hightower2 |
| 2025-09-09 13:37:07 +0000 | hightower4 | (~hightower@cpe-94-253-190-65.zg.cable.xnet.hr) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2025-09-09 15:58:39 +0000 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a25a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
| 2025-09-09 16:34:02 +0000 | mkoskar | (~mkoskar@user/mkoskar) (Quit: mkoskar) |
| 2025-09-09 16:35:09 +0000 | mkoskar | (~mkoskar@user/mkoskar) mkoskar |
| 2025-09-09 16:53:02 +0000 | yaslam | (~yaslam@user/yaslam) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2025-09-09 16:53:53 +0000 | yaslam | (~yaslam@user/yaslam) yaslam |
| 2025-09-09 18:55:38 +0000 | <geekosaur> | in light of https://opencollective.com/opensource/updates/public-service-announcement-re-salt-typhoon, can we prune release people on Hackage? |
| 2025-09-09 18:56:56 +0000 | <geekosaur> | on the one hand, one might not expect us to be very involved in supply chain attacks… OTOH a window manager is a lovely place to insert code that can do pretty much anything on a system |
| 2025-09-09 18:57:27 +0000 | <geekosaur> | (Wayland has some mitigations, but I expect is almost as bad in practice) |
| 2025-09-09 19:29:09 +0000 | <L29Ah> | what kind of mitigations does wayland have? |
| 2025-09-09 19:29:26 +0000 | <L29Ah> | i expect a wayland compositor having more permissions than X window manager |
| 2025-09-09 19:29:53 +0000 | <L29Ah> | as it needs things like direct I/O access unlike the window manager |
| 2025-09-09 19:30:30 +0000 | <geekosaur> | right, it's in effect the "X server" |
| 2025-09-09 19:31:04 +0000 | <geekosaur> | and the window manager is a plugin to it, and has access to more things than clients do as a result… but can be simpler also, making it easier to audit |
| 2025-09-09 19:32:12 +0000 | <geekosaur> | and a lot of stuff that's exposed for client<->window manager and client<->X server intended for window management isn't exposed in a way that lets any other client eavesdrop or potentially inject messages, like it is in X |
| 2025-09-09 19:33:03 +0000 | <geekosaur> | ("potentially inject" itself being mitigated by the "send_message" flag, as long as you don't have XTEST or certain other extensions enabled that by default are disabled for very good reason) |
| 2025-09-09 19:37:21 +0000 | <geekosaur> | there are ways to restrict those messages, but it's complicated and really easy to get wrong in both directions (that is, restricting either too little or too much) |
| 2025-09-09 19:44:35 +0000 | ximn | (~ximn@dslb-002-206-034-018.002.206.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 2025-09-09 19:44:55 +0000 | <ximn> | Hi is there xmonad on Wayland ? Also is xmonad similar to qtile? |
| 2025-09-09 19:45:43 +0000 | <ximn> | I have Debian and would like to try it if it is like qtile any suggestions |
| 2025-09-09 19:48:27 +0000 | <geekosaur> | not yet, there was some work going on but it seems to have stalled (you can find it on Discourse) |
| 2025-09-09 19:50:40 +0000 | <ximn> | Is xmonad good for gaming? |
| 2025-09-09 19:53:45 +0000 | <ximn> | How many months is xmonad on Debian forky behind ? |
| 2025-09-09 19:58:30 +0000 | <ximn> | What's the display manager that can open xmonad ? |
| 2025-09-09 19:58:33 +0000 | <ximn> | Light dm? |
| 2025-09-09 20:07:22 +0000 | ximn | (~ximn@dslb-002-206-034-018.002.206.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-09-09 20:20:59 +0000 | ximn | (~ximn@dslb-002-206-034-018.002.206.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 2025-09-09 20:25:58 +0000 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) (Quit: getting boxed in) |
| 2025-09-09 20:31:12 +0000 | ximn | (~ximn@dslb-002-206-034-018.002.206.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-09-09 20:41:01 +0000 | <L29Ah> | i wonder how many of X security critics acutally run their desktops under a MAC |
| 2025-09-09 20:57:41 +0000 | <geekosaur> | if you use an OS package then any XDG-compliant display manager should work |
| 2025-09-09 20:58:37 +0000 | <geekosaur> | if you install it yourself, there's an example desktop file on the wiki or you can do it the old fashioned way with a "default X session" and .xsession file |
| 2025-09-09 20:59:01 +0000 | <L29Ah> | he left |
| 2025-09-09 20:59:23 +0000 | <geekosaur> | sigh |
| 2025-09-09 21:55:54 +0000 | Guest65 | (~Guest65@dslb-002-206-034-018.002.206.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 2025-09-09 21:55:59 +0000 | <Guest65> | is there a prefinished xmonad desktop |
| 2025-09-09 21:56:00 +0000 | <Guest65> | ? |
| 2025-09-09 22:01:35 +0000 | <geekosaur> | not really, the whole idea is that xmonad is a window manager construction toolkit. |
| 2025-09-09 22:01:46 +0000 | <geekosaur> | bluetile exists but it's based on a fairly old version |
| 2025-09-09 22:12:27 +0000 | Guest65 | (~Guest65@dslb-002-206-034-018.002.206.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-09-09 23:36:01 +0000 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a25a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Lost terminal) |
| 2025-09-09 23:51:51 +0000 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a25a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
| 2025-09-09 23:53:58 +0000 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) (Quit: derp) |
| 2025-09-09 23:55:05 +0000 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) tv |
