| 2025-02-07 00:00:21 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Hmmm, do you know what the core dump might be named? I'm running `ls -altr`, so I figured the latest files (including the core dump) would be near the bottom. |
| 2025-02-07 00:00:37 +0100 | <ectospasm> | I also don't find anything with 'core' or 'dump' in the filename. |
| 2025-02-07 00:07:59 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it should just be `core` |
| 2025-02-07 00:08:52 +0100 | <ectospasm> | according to this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Core_dump#Where_do_they_go?, they're in /var/lib/systemd/coredump/. Sure enough, there's a bunch in there for xmonad. |
| 2025-02-07 00:08:53 +0100 | <geekosaur> | possibly `core.somenumber` (which would be the pid) |
| 2025-02-07 00:09:07 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ah, so they do play sysctl games |
| 2025-02-07 00:09:20 +0100 | <ectospasm> | It appears so. |
| 2025-02-07 00:09:38 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Seems it's tied into systemd, which I appreciate. |
| 2025-02-07 00:09:45 +0100 | <ectospasm> | (I'm a fan of systemd) |
| 2025-02-07 00:09:52 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Or an apologist, if you will. |
| 2025-02-07 00:10:03 +0100 | <ectospasm> | But not here to talk about that. |
| 2025-02-07 00:10:40 +0100 | <ectospasm> | So, I'm a bit apprehensive about sharing that core dump. Any hints on how to review it? This is starting to get beyond my skillset (if using XMonad wasn't already) |
| 2025-02-07 00:12:53 +0100 | <geekosaur> | `gdb /path/to/xmonad-x86_64-linux /path/to/coredump` then `bt` |
| 2025-02-07 00:13:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but I'm not sure it'll be helpful, Haskell backtraces are wonky to start with and it's almost certainly built without debug information |
| 2025-02-07 00:13:39 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but if it's in an FFI call then it should at least show that |
| 2025-02-07 00:13:47 +0100 | <ectospasm> | FFI? |
| 2025-02-07 00:15:21 +0100 | <geekosaur> | foreign function interface |
| 2025-02-07 00:15:41 +0100 | <geekosaur> | we call out to C functions for practically everything, from X server calls, fonts, etc. |
| 2025-02-07 00:19:11 +0100 | <ectospasm> | OK |
| 2025-02-07 00:19:22 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Yeah, this uses coredumpctl to analyze core dumps. |
| 2025-02-07 00:19:32 +0100 | <ectospasm> | I may need to build XMonad with debugging symbols |
| 2025-02-07 00:20:36 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Also, I should probably not rebuild xmonad before launching it again while I'm trying to debug this (`coredumpctl debug` posted a message saying the executable may not match the core dump, which makes sense since I recompiled it after the dump was produced) |
| 2025-02-07 00:21:31 +0100 | <ectospasm> | I guess everything linked to it would need debugging symbols as well, not just the Haskell/XMonad bits. |
| 2025-02-07 00:21:47 +0100 | <ectospasm> | In case it's something outside of XMonad causing this. |
| 2025-02-07 00:22:26 +0100 | <ectospasm> | I suspect libXft if I had to hazard a guess, since I can't reproduce the behavior if I change the references to 'xft' in xmonad.hs to 'pango'. |
| 2025-02-07 00:23:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | most things will have external debug symbols, although you may need to install them with pacman |
| 2025-02-07 00:23:48 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Yep. |
| 2025-02-07 00:35:46 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Is there a way for me to build the debugging symbols for the XMonad executable I build? |
| 2025-02-07 00:36:01 +0100 | <ectospasm> | It looks like coredumpctl is getting the debug symbols for everything else. |
| 2025-02-07 00:36:11 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Or at least it appears that way. |
| 2025-02-07 00:36:16 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I think you'd have to set up a build script |
| 2025-02-07 00:37:01 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Yep, I see output that I don't have anything like that set up when I do recompile it. |
| 2025-02-07 00:37:21 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Any guides on where I can set that up quickly? |
| 2025-02-07 00:39:13 +0100 | <ectospasm> | OK, so coredumpctl debug finally finished loading everything, and I see this: warning: 1491 XMonad/Prompt.hs: No such file or directory |
| 2025-02-07 00:39:27 +0100 | <ectospasm> | So it looks like I'm missing something. I wonder why it compiles? |
| 2025-02-07 00:39:48 +0100 | <ectospasm> | That's before I built debugging symbols. |
| 2025-02-07 00:41:12 +0100 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/lkiSFKKs put this in a file called "build" in the same directory as xmonad.hs, and "chmod +x build" |
| 2025-02-07 00:41:59 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you don't have source files installed, only object files and HI files |
| 2025-02-07 00:42:09 +0100 | <geekosaur> | which are all you need to build |
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| 2025-02-07 01:05:47 +0100 | zawaken | (~zawaken@user/zawaken) zawaken |
| 2025-02-07 01:14:36 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Yeah, that build causes the compile to throw a bunch of errors, since ghc on Arch isn't set up properly. I guess this is why it's always recommended to build xmonad with cabal, but I don't want to go that route right now. |
| 2025-02-07 01:15:18 +0100 | <ectospasm> | This seems very Arch specific now that I think of it. I'll see if I can get any headway in #archlinux. |
| 2025-02-07 01:15:35 +0100 | <ectospasm> | But at least I now know how to look at the core dump in Arch. |
| 2025-02-07 01:15:58 +0100 | <geekosaur> | oh, right, forgot Arch needs `-dynamic` in there too |
| 2025-02-07 01:16:13 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Does it matter where it goes in that ghc line? |
| 2025-02-07 01:16:24 +0100 | <geekosaur> | not very much |
| 2025-02-07 01:16:33 +0100 | <geekosaur> | just put it right after `ghc` |
| 2025-02-07 01:17:19 +0100 | <ectospasm> | OK |
| 2025-02-07 04:01:36 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Sorry, had to go take care of my family, got a toddler and a newborn! |
| 2025-02-07 04:01:57 +0100 | <ectospasm> | So here's the complete backtrace of the XMonad crash: https://paste.rs/AzLvB |
| 2025-02-07 04:02:21 +0100 | <ectospasm> | My guess is XMonad/Prompt.hs is looking for a font I no longer have, or the way to refer to it has changed. |
| 2025-02-07 04:03:17 +0100 | <ectospasm> | Unfortunately it doesn't say what file it can't find, unless it's XMonad/Prompt.hs itself. But it refers to other lines in that backtrace (I assume the top is the first thing on the stack, the last thing added?) |
| 2025-02-07 04:15:07 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that one is, as I said earlier, because Arch doesn't install source code to go with the libraries it installs |
| 2025-02-07 04:15:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but it's not related to fonts |
| 2025-02-07 04:16:26 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's in defaultXPKeymap |
| 2025-02-07 04:16:45 +0100 | <geekosaur> | unfortunately you came back right as I was about to go to bed |
| 2025-02-07 04:17:24 +0100 | <ectospasm> | No worries. I wonder if I deleted something while I was trying to fix it earlier, and it just so happens to compile |
| 2025-02-07 04:17:45 +0100 | <ectospasm> | That xmonad.hs on my Git repo is old. Let me try restoring it and see if that fixes it. |
| 2025-02-07 04:18:02 +0100 | <geekosaur> | no, that is completely unrelated |
| 2025-02-07 04:19:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and it's not in defaultXPKeymap either, that's gdb not understandon ghc's debug info (there's an open bug about that) |
| 2025-02-07 04:19:45 +0100 | <geekosaur> | the crash is in drawWin, which is in a where clause of redrawWindows |
| 2025-02-07 04:20:05 +0100 | <geekosaur> | printPrompt pm |
| 2025-02-07 04:20:41 +0100 | <geekosaur> | either that line itself (which seems unlikely) or the fillDrawable just above it (which seems much more likely) |
| 2025-02-07 04:23:13 +0100 | <geekosaur> | unless printPrompt is being inlined, hm. but I can't really look any more deeply into this tonight |
| 2025-02-07 04:25:01 +0100 | <ectospasm> | OK, thanks! We'll pick this back up tomorrow, if I'm available. |
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| 2025-02-07 13:17:38 +0100 | yaslam | (~yaslam@user/yaslam) yaslam |
| 2025-02-07 13:31:26 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ectospasm, looking over things this morning I think `fontS` in the `XPConfig` is a null pointer. Which probably means we're not testing the result of some FFI call. |
| 2025-02-07 13:32:10 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's attributed to `printPrompt` because that's what uses the saved font information |
| 2025-02-07 13:39:04 +0100 | ft | (~ft@p3e9bcd97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
| 2025-02-07 14:29:55 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hmmm hmmm… X11-xft doesn't catch NULL return from XftFomntOpen |
| 2025-02-07 14:30:56 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but also if USE_XFT isn't enabled the XFT font name with "xft:" prefix is attempted as a UTF-8 FontSet, which is practically guaranteed to fail. and I still need to check if that produces an unchecked NULL pointer |
| 2025-02-07 14:38:03 +0100 | <geekosaur> | okay, that one has `thrrowIfNone` at least. so (a) yes, you seem to be missing a font (b) X11-xft doesn't handle it properly |
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| 2025-02-07 16:57:00 +0100 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/pull/21 |
| 2025-02-07 17:30:09 +0100 | <ectospasm> | OK, so I need to see which font is missing and restore it. |
| 2025-02-07 17:30:51 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2025-02-07 17:31:04 +0100 | <geekosaur> | or change oit to one which exists |
| 2025-02-07 17:43:34 +0100 | <ectospasm> | I need to find which font it's failing on. It may be multiple, as the other clue besides the crash is my dzen2 bar isn't showing either, which I suspect is a similar if not the same problem. |
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