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2023-07-22 04:12:35 +0000 <galactic_starfis> Apparently not, though your answer is the XMonad way to do it... and it totally kicks butt, so...
2023-07-22 04:12:40 +0000 <galactic_starfis> who knows what they're on/after
2023-07-22 04:12:42 +0000 <galactic_starfis> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2023-07-22 04:44:04 +0000 <absta[m]> Hmm, I never once experienced dbus not starting
2023-07-22 06:45:00 +0000immibis(~quassel@2a01:4f9:4a:4caf::2)
2023-07-22 08:06:37 +0000 <geekosaur> some display managers autostart it, some distros autostart it with X
2023-07-22 08:06:47 +0000 <geekosaur> others you have to do it manually
2023-07-22 08:08:51 +0000 <geekosaur> and I think they were looking for a more Windows-like answer, but yeh, that's not what you get with xmonad
2023-07-22 08:09:45 +0000 <geekosaur> you could get it with something like the xmonad under MATE setup I have, but that gets you a Windows-like REGEDIT setup too :) (dconf-editor to configure xmonad as the wm)
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2023-07-22 09:59:43 +0000 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: pull/463 (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/463
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2023-07-22 13:05:22 +0000 <gar[m]> Is xmonad compatible with ewmh https://github.com/polybar/polybar/wiki/Module:-xworkspaces
2023-07-22 13:09:28 +0000 <geekosaur> configure XMonad.Hooks.EwmhDesktops in your config
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2023-07-22 18:54:21 +0000 <geekosaur> I… what was that doing here?
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2023-07-22 18:55:15 +0000 <geekosaur> oh, apparently kiwiirc was being "helpful" and remembered it from some other connection
2023-07-22 18:55:43 +0000 <geekosaur> (I was testing whether #haskell-cabal would forward to #hackage)
2023-07-22 18:56:15 +0000 <Solid> huh?
2023-07-22 18:56:24 +0000 <geekosaur> [22 18:47:31] * redirtestcabal (~redirtest@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com) has joined
2023-07-22 18:57:04 +0000 <geekosaur> at first I thought somehow the forward-ban ended up pointing here instead of #hackage
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2023-07-22 19:18:59 +0000 <Solid> ah
2023-07-22 19:19:15 +0000 <Solid> at some point I just configured my IRC client to ignore all of that join/leave noise
2023-07-22 19:19:25 +0000 <Solid> Only downside is that I'm now oblivious to netsplits :)
2023-07-22 19:25:36 +0000 <geekosaur> we don't see many of those anyway
2023-07-22 19:25:54 +0000 <geekosaur> closest we get i when the matrix or irccloud bridges fall over
2023-07-22 19:25:58 +0000 <geekosaur> *is
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2023-07-22 22:50:07 +0000 <absta[m]> <geekosaur> "some display managers autostart..." <- Interesting, so far both lightdm and sddm seem to support it.
2023-07-22 22:50:55 +0000 <geekosaur> others might but you might have to edit a config file and restart them
2023-07-22 22:51:04 +0000 <geekosaur> some others might not
2023-07-22 22:51:49 +0000 <absta[m]> May I ask what other display managers are out there that can be used with xmonad?
2023-07-22 22:53:18 +0000T_X_T_X
2023-07-22 22:54:03 +0000 <geekosaur> gdm (probably autostarts it), wdm, lxdm — just looking quickly at `apt-cache search 'display manager'`; there may be others
2023-07-22 22:54:24 +0000 <geekosaur> display managers are completely divorced from sessions
2023-07-22 22:57:59 +0000 <geekosaur> well, no, since they can wrap the sessions in things like `dbus-launch` like we're talking about, but any display manager can start any session type (with some work; xdm/wdm won't run XDG sessions directly and the others need an XDG session wrapper to run ~/.xsession)
2023-07-22 23:05:12 +0000 <absta[m]> TIL about wdm. Maybe lxdm is lightweight enough to not start dbus session itself..
2023-07-22 23:07:11 +0000 <geekosaur> there used to be more but many have ceased to exist. KDE used to have its own kdm for example
2023-07-22 23:12:22 +0000 <geekosaur> I think MATE had mdm for a while too, then switched to lightdm
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