| 2023-04-21 00:05:40 +0200 | <jabuxas> | i discovered another interesting thing, with `xmonad ... . ewmh` some windows have their border flickering and spike cpu usage for xmonad, and another thing with xmobar consuming a lot of cpu.. well i'll send a video of the first one demostrating it. |
| 2023-04-21 00:08:21 +0200 | <jabuxas> | https://imgur.com/a/JNTyey4 |
| 2023-04-21 00:08:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | xmobar will depend on what version, several have bugs |
| 2023-04-21 00:09:04 +0200 | <jabuxas> | xmobar is 0.46 |
| 2023-04-21 00:10:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I don't know if you got my earlier one but your game window was requesting a resize the ICCCM way (we neither advertise nor support EWMH move/resize) and that may be causing it to get tiled. I'll have to dig at how we handle ConfigureRequest |
| 2023-04-21 00:10:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | liskin? know anything about xmobar 0.46? |
| 2023-04-21 00:10:47 +0200 | <jabuxas> | the issue with xmobar is that it spikes very fast to 100% cpu usage when changing windows fast, it's because of the UnsafeXMonadLog monitor, if I remove it the issue goes away, could it be because "Unsafe"? |
| 2023-04-21 00:11:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (I know practically nothing about xmobar besides that some versions are buggy. I don't use it, and it's not really part of the xmonad project) |
| 2023-04-21 00:11:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "Unsafe" means it'll accept commands as part of what xmonad sends it |
| 2023-04-21 00:11:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you removed it completley then it's not accepting input from xmonad at all |
| 2023-04-21 00:12:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sounds like it may have infelicities in rendering |
| 2023-04-21 00:12:47 +0200 | <jabuxas> | geekosaur: no I didn't see that, thank you. I read somewhere that xmonad is by default is icccm, that's why without ewmh it works? |
| 2023-04-21 00:13:21 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it may be, since we wouldn't be advertising ewmh support so many programs would fall back to icccm |
| 2023-04-21 00:17:33 +0200 | <jabuxas> | by changing windows i mean changing window focus. with 1 xmobar the cpu doesn't straight up peaks to 100%, but with 2 running at the same time it explodes fast |
| 2023-04-21 00:18:23 +0200 | <jabuxas> | imgur really lowers the video quality by a lot, what a shame |
| 2023-04-21 00:18:50 +0200 | <jabuxas> | can barely see the flickering |
| 2023-04-21 00:19:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | was gonna say, I didn't see much there |
| 2023-04-21 00:19:16 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (sorry, making dinner) |
| 2023-04-21 00:19:51 +0200 | <jabuxas> | no problem, i'll try to find another platform to upload it - any suggestions? |
| 2023-04-21 00:22:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | nope, I generally use imgur because that's what my screenshooter uses |
| 2023-04-21 00:28:10 +0200 | <jabuxas> | https://youtu.be/hlJFDnnAQP4 |
| 2023-04-21 00:28:17 +0200 | <jabuxas> | youtube works for high res |
| 2023-04-21 00:29:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm. I think you may have an actual bug there |
| 2023-04-21 00:30:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | programs are allowed to set focus to other windows, such as modal dialogs (like that one) |
| 2023-04-21 00:30:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I don't think we try to handle that, we'll just set focus back where we think it belongs |
| 2023-04-21 00:30:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | could you file that? |
| 2023-04-21 00:32:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | not that I'm quite sure what to do about it in focus follows mouse mode |
| 2023-04-21 00:33:11 +0200 | <jabuxas> | i'll try, i'm just not sure on the right wording for it |
| 2023-04-21 00:34:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (if anyone comes on this discussion later: WM_TRANSIENT_FOR) |
| 2023-04-21 00:41:29 +0200 | <jabuxas> | on the minimal configuration file, is `main = xmonad $ ewmh def` syntax correct? |
| 2023-04-21 00:49:29 +0200 | <jabuxas> | #452, anything I should edit geekosaur? |
| 2023-04-21 00:51:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | syntax is correct, yes |
| 2023-04-21 00:52:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I'm reviewing how to identify modal dialogs via ICCCM |
| 2023-04-21 00:52:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | seems good enough |
| 2023-04-21 00:54:43 +0200 | <jabuxas> | good :) |
| 2023-04-21 01:17:53 +0200 | <jabuxas> | i uploaded some more videos demonstrating then the other 3 bugs, namely xmobar, league client being tiled, and #450 |
| 2023-04-21 01:29:04 +0200 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/811 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/811 |
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| 2023-04-21 07:38:44 +0200 | <Solid[m]> | mc47 liskin geekosaur [Leary] +1 for merging the core PR (after the issues with Repeatable et.al. are fixed), but I also think that we shouldn't merge the manageHook stuff, as breaking every user config that ever used windows (even in a 1.0 release) seems like a very bad idea |
| 2023-04-21 07:39:01 +0200 | <Solid[m]> | and mc47 congratulations :) |
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| 2023-04-21 09:27:10 +0200 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a88b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2023-04-21 10:17:22 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
| 2023-04-21 11:00:09 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
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| 2023-04-21 11:09:58 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2023-04-21 11:10:21 +0200 | <mc47> | Thanks Solid! |
| 2023-04-21 11:10:36 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) |
| 2023-04-21 11:10:50 +0200 | unclechu | (~unclechu@2001:470:69fc:105::354) |
| 2023-04-21 11:13:13 +0200 | <mc47> | On an unrelated note, my friend who works at TNG reached out and told me if one of us could present a talk/workshop about xmonad there. The hackathon is probably during summer |
| 2023-04-21 11:14:28 +0200 | <mc47> | Not sure I can attend since I'll probably be travelling during the time |
| 2023-04-21 12:32:24 +0200 | malook | (~Thunderbi@2a02:9b0:404d:2c48:cd5b:8fd3:a852:6df1) |
| 2023-04-21 12:35:52 +0200 | <liskin> | geekosaur: we do handle ConfigureRequest, and I have an upcoming PR to contrib to customize that handling |
| 2023-04-21 12:36:19 +0200 | <liskin> | Unlikely to help jabuxas though |
| 2023-04-21 12:36:25 +0200 | <liskin> | mc47: what's tng. |
| 2023-04-21 12:37:02 +0200 | <mc47> | It's a company based in Munich, they organize the MuniHac hackathon |
| 2023-04-21 12:40:40 +0200 | <liskin> | I see |
| 2023-04-21 12:54:42 +0200 | <mc47[m]> | Solid @slot-:matrix.org came last year, I wanted to come but I literally couldn't get out of bed |
| 2023-04-21 13:02:50 +0200 | Magician | (deepy@user/deepy) |
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| 2023-04-21 13:18:16 +0200 | <liskin> | https://maintainermonth.github.com/schedule |
| 2023-04-21 13:18:42 +0200 | <liskin> | and there's more: https://github.com/community/maintainers/discussions/315 |
| 2023-04-21 13:18:49 +0200 | <liskin> | (I don't think I have the capacity for any of this) |
| 2023-04-21 13:30:54 +0200 | horzion | (~horzion@ProtonDB/horzion) |
| 2023-04-21 13:32:40 +0200 | <horzion> | i am trying to figure out to make zoom less annoying to handle. it always opens 2-3 totally black windows whenever switching rooms that disappear automatically. it also opens a black window when someone shares their screen and it opens a permanent white window for some notifications while everything else stays in one winodw (with exception of the chat, that sometimes opens in an own window) |
| 2023-04-21 14:21:25 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2023-04-21 15:15:59 +0200 | <Solid[m]> | mc47 if you can tell me the time I can tell you if I'm available |
| 2023-04-21 15:16:18 +0200 | <Solid[m]> | summer is also conference season, but I hope I can squeeze it in somehow |
| 2023-04-21 15:22:04 +0200 | <mc47> | I'll keep you updated :+1: |
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| 2023-04-21 16:28:08 +0200 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Mahdi Seyedan {Brandon S Allbery KF8NH} * v0.17.1-152-gcf00d2d2: Add CenterMainFluid layout (16 hours ago, 3 files, 104+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/cf00d2d2371a |
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| 2023-04-21 18:46:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | well, haven't solved the modal dialog issue (if in fact we can solve it; there's a reason Windows, which uses modal dialogs extensively, uses click-to-focus), but have fixed most of the glitches in debugEvents |
| 2023-04-21 18:46:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (still testing locally) |
| 2023-04-21 18:46:29 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) |
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| 2023-04-21 18:51:08 +0200 | thunderrd | (~thunderrd@183.182.115.90) |
| 2023-04-21 18:57:10 +0200 | <jabuxas> | i can get the logs on that dialog if needed |
| 2023-04-21 18:57:51 +0200 | <jabuxas> | i'm thinking about ditching xmobar but still don't know a good bar or if i really want one |
| 2023-04-21 18:58:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I don't think more logs will help. focus-follows-mouse is just fundamentally incompatible with Windows-style modals (where the application actively transfers focus to the modal) |
| 2023-04-21 18:59:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | gtk modals for e.g. logins just deactivate the app window so you can't do anything if you focus it |
| 2023-04-21 18:59:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | polybar is a common replacement for xmobar |
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| 2023-04-21 19:31:25 +0200 | <Guest52> | Hi, I have a problem using the rescreenHook. I have set it up so that autorandr --change gets executed on afterRescreenHook. It works but only once. |
| 2023-04-21 19:31:25 +0200 | <Guest52> | After I detach my external monitor it switches back to my undocked profile (laptop monitor only output). If I connect my external monitor again I have to manually execute autorandr --change. |
| 2023-04-21 19:32:02 +0200 | <Guest52> | If I recompile xmonad it works ahain. But only for one execution. |
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| 2023-04-21 19:33:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | liskin? I kinow 0 about afterRescreenHook |
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| 2023-04-21 22:42:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | think I got all the debugEvents bugs sorted. want to add one prop before making a PR |
| 2023-04-21 22:42:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | found a bug in DebugWindow in the process, which I need to figure out more |
| 2023-04-21 22:43:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and I think I found why adding STICKY to my manageHook causes windows to randomly follow me around: for some reason mate-panel is marked sticky and this confuses xmonad |
| 2023-04-21 22:44:45 +0200 | horzion | (~horzion@ProtonDB/horzion) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-04-21 22:49:49 +0200 | horzion | (~horzion@ProtonDB/horzion) |
| 2023-04-21 22:51:17 +0200 | <horzion> | i am trying to get gparted running, but when executed nothing appears. on kde it would ask me for my password. i am guessing i am missing something with polkit? i looked for a solution in the wiki, but didnt come to a solution yet, but feel close. maybe someone can give me the push i need? |
| 2023-04-21 22:54:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Polkit#Authentication_agents |
| 2023-04-21 22:55:03 +0200 | horzion | (~horzion@ProtonDB/horzion) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-04-21 23:00:58 +0200 | horzion | (~horzion@ProtonDB/horzion) |
| 2023-04-21 23:01:38 +0200 | <horzion> | yeah, i looked up the thing with user agents, but somehow the kde one doesnt want to start? |
| 2023-04-21 23:02:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the gnome and kde ones almost certainly want a full desktop environment and may require their desktop environment. I'd try the LXDE one first |
| 2023-04-21 23:03:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's also I think possible to run the polkit agent directly but I don't know how well that will work since it comes from a private directory and has no UI that I'm aware of |
| 2023-04-21 23:03:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (I run xmonad with Mate so I get its polkit agent) |
| 2023-04-21 23:05:56 +0200 | <horzion> | i see |
| 2023-04-21 23:06:32 +0200 | <jabuxas> | i always used lxqt-policykit-agent, works standalone good enough |
| 2023-04-21 23:06:53 +0200 | <horzion> | wouldnt it conflict with kdes one? |
| 2023-04-21 23:07:39 +0200 | <jabuxas> | no since kde's one won't really start if you're not using kde, and they're different programs so it wouldn't uninstall kde's |
| 2023-04-21 23:07:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | are you runningt xmonad under kde? in that case you should get kde's; the window manager wouldn't affect that |
| 2023-04-21 23:09:36 +0200 | <horzion> | nah i am not. but if its in .xinitrc it would iirc. but i just put the polkit in my autostart hook |
| 2023-04-21 23:09:42 +0200 | <horzion> | well, startup hook |
| 2023-04-21 23:09:47 +0200 | <horzion> | and works like a charm |
| 2023-04-21 23:09:50 +0200 | <horzion> | thank you very much |
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