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2022-12-15 08:06:12 +0100thyriaen(~thyriaen@2a01:aea0:dd4:4bae:6245:cbff:fe9f:48b1)
2022-12-15 09:08:01 +0100 <HB[m]> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1352692309
2022-12-15 09:08:31 +0100 <HB[m]> * https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1352692309 Latest Patch for Xmonad Compatibility for KDE Plasma 5.98 (as well as in Kubuntu 22.10)
2022-12-15 09:16:10 +0100 <HB[m]> s/1352692309/1352701747 Latest Patch for Xmonad Compatibility for KDE Plasma 5.98 (as well as in Kubuntu 22.10)/
2022-12-15 09:17:21 +0100 <HB[m]> I have just tested the patch in a virtual machine, it builds, Xmonad and KDE panels/menus work in 22.10 Kubuntu and plasma-framework 5.98.
2022-12-15 09:17:21 +0100 <HB[m]> Enjoy.
2022-12-15 09:20:01 +0100 <HB[m]> I'm not sure if I created the patch properly... Uhmm. I'm tired. 1AM
2022-12-15 09:24:05 +0100 <thyriaen> can i just use my "normal" xmonad config for my standalone xmonad as a config for kde-xmonad or will something break and I should start fresh ?
2022-12-15 09:27:42 +0100HB[m]posted a file: (16KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/mozilla.org/ea337488c5e010346a438d81f77eee9fe4b9â€Ļ >
2022-12-15 09:28:42 +0100 <HB[m]> Here's my Xmonad config. I do not know if `kde-xmonad` is some special software as I have not heard of it.
2022-12-15 09:28:42 +0100 <HB[m]> But you would load the KDE helper module, and in your env, `export KDEWM=xmonad`
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2022-12-15 09:36:37 +0100 <HB[m]> This config is for 0.17 Xmonad so it's only going to work there and will fail in other versions I think.
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2022-12-15 13:03:34 +0100 <thyriaen> HB[m], i just mean running xmonad with kde
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2022-12-15 15:34:03 +0100 <geekosaur> thyriaen, you need a patch for plasma (a KDE component) for it to work properly with xmonad
2022-12-15 15:34:27 +0100 <geekosaur> otherwise, see XMonad.Config.KDE.kde4Config for some integrations with KDE
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2022-12-15 16:21:35 +0100 <Guest27> Is this the right place to ask questions/get help? I couldnt find an official forum
2022-12-15 16:21:54 +0100 <geekosaur> yes
2022-12-15 16:23:28 +0100 <Guest27> M-q is not showing the standard xorg-message error messages, while running `xmonad --recompile` in a console does. Any ideas where to look for clues why it does that?
2022-12-15 16:24:58 +0100 <Jade[m]> it has never worked for me
2022-12-15 16:25:01 +0100 <Jade[m]> haha
2022-12-15 16:25:31 +0100 <geekosaur> sounds like a PATH problem, except I'd expect xmessage to be in /usr/bin
2022-12-15 16:26:06 +0100 <geekosaur> (the PATH you have in a terminal is not the same as the PATH display managers give to window managers / session managers)
2022-12-15 16:31:52 +0100 <Guest27> I will look into that, I had the problem before and had to include a PATH export to the cabal directory in my .zprofile. Guess I didnt learn anything :D
2022-12-15 16:33:13 +0100 <geekosaur> I hook X session startup to set my PATH and a few other things there (/etc/X11/Xsession.d/10profile)
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2022-12-15 18:47:43 +0100 <thyriaen> geekosaur, how do i patch kde ?
2022-12-15 18:48:55 +0100 <thyriaen> i mean which komponent and how to do it ? ( but otherwise i can use my normal xmonad config or should i start fresh ? )
2022-12-15 18:55:21 +0100 <geekosaur> you probably want to talk to HB[m]; all I know about it is https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174
2022-12-15 18:55:51 +0100 <geekosaur> I haven't used KDE with xmonad in some 10 years (KDE3 was the latest version back then 🙂
2022-12-15 19:02:57 +0100 <thyriaen> oki thanks
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2022-12-15 19:32:57 +0100 <HB[m]> let me know which versino of kubuntu you're using and I can even build the packages for you for amd64
2022-12-15 19:33:09 +0100 <HB[m]> But first try the instructions in the link from geekosaur
2022-12-15 19:38:24 +0100 <thyriaen> HB[m], you mean https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174 ?
2022-12-15 19:38:37 +0100 <HB[m]> 👍ī¸
2022-12-15 19:39:08 +0100 <HB[m]> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 Directions are in this post.
2022-12-15 19:39:13 +0100 <HB[m]> It's not trivial to do this if you're new/noob.
2022-12-15 19:39:40 +0100 <HB[m]> Which version of Kubuntu will you use? 22.04? Or 22.10?
2022-12-15 19:39:50 +0100 <HB[m]> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 Use this for 22.04
2022-12-15 19:39:53 +0100 <thyriaen> provided by fedora 37
2022-12-15 19:39:57 +0100 <HB[m]> * https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 Use this for 22.04
2022-12-15 19:39:57 +0100 <HB[m]> LTS
2022-12-15 19:40:59 +0100 <HB[m]> I can't build packages
2022-12-15 19:41:00 +0100 <HB[m]> \ for Fedora 37 as I don't use it. Follow their dolcs on how to modify package source and rebuild, and use my patch for the proper version of plasma.
2022-12-15 19:41:04 +0100 <thyriaen> is there no repository with binary packages provided for xmonad ? or is kde simply not supported ?
2022-12-15 19:41:18 +0100 <HB[m]> KDE is supported by Xmonad
2022-12-15 19:41:25 +0100 <HB[m]> Xmonad is not supported by KDE
2022-12-15 19:41:28 +0100 <thyriaen> :p
2022-12-15 19:41:31 +0100 <thyriaen> i understand
2022-12-15 19:41:33 +0100 <HB[m]> KDE devs don't care about us ☚ī¸
2022-12-15 19:41:51 +0100 <thyriaen> which is good for me
2022-12-15 19:42:03 +0100 <thyriaen> as i will not attempt to switch from xmonad to kde+xmonad :p
2022-12-15 19:42:08 +0100 <HB[m]> s/\//
2022-12-15 19:42:11 +0100 <HB[m]> s/\//, s/dolcs/docs/
2022-12-15 19:42:48 +0100 <HB[m]> I only use KDE panel with Xmonad, and some KDE apps as I dislike GTK and try to avoid it.
2022-12-15 19:42:49 +0100 <thyriaen> i think it will be too much of a headache to change source and rebuild
2022-12-15 19:43:11 +0100 <thyriaen> and stuff will break / when i upgrade and so on
2022-12-15 19:44:55 +0100 <HB[m]> 1) Get RPM plasma-framework package source in Fedora
2022-12-15 19:44:55 +0100 <HB[m]> 2) Edit source (apply my patch)
2022-12-15 19:44:55 +0100 <HB[m]> 3) Build package
2022-12-15 19:44:55 +0100 <HB[m]> https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/RebuildSRPM if interested also ask in #fedora on Matrox/IRC
2022-12-15 20:19:34 +0100ft(~ft@p4fc2a257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2022-12-15 20:21:08 +0100 <thyriaen> HB[m], is noone maintaining a prepacked prebuild for the likes of me who are too lazy to do it ?
2022-12-15 22:33:54 +0100thyriaen(~thyriaen@2a01:aea0:dd4:4bae:6245:cbff:fe9f:48b1) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2022-12-15 22:34:05 +0100qroolen(~user@2804:14c:8793:8069:8230:49ff:fe14:1509)
2022-12-15 22:35:40 +0100 <qroolen> someone can point what i am doing wrong by trying to spawn an application at N workspace? https://bit.ly/3FyLOaV
2022-12-15 22:35:57 +0100 <qroolen> it always starts on the focused workspace :|
2022-12-15 22:36:35 +0100 <qroolen> line 16 and 19 my logic is
2022-12-15 22:42:50 +0100 <geekosaur> does the splash window show up on the correct workspace? I suspect it's the one that manageSpawn is handling
2022-12-15 22:43:26 +0100 <geekosaur> alos, the way you wrote that, the setDefaultCursor is being overwritten; you should use <> instead of a second record update
2022-12-15 22:43:38 +0100 <geekosaur> (but that's mostly unrelated)
2022-12-15 22:44:42 +0100 <geekosaur> try running `"gimp --no-splash"`, in short
2022-12-15 22:47:09 +0100 <qroolen> <3
2022-12-15 22:47:19 +0100 <qroolen> --no-splash made it work, thanks
2022-12-15 22:47:48 +0100 <qroolen> and what do you mean using <> on setDefaultCursor?
2022-12-15 22:47:53 +0100 <geekosaur> xmonad isn't magic;p the splash screen gets moved, then manageSpawn forgets about it and won't move the real window
2022-12-15 22:48:08 +0100 <geekosaur> look at line 15 vs. line 19
2022-12-15 22:48:58 +0100 <geekosaur> first you set `startupHook` to `setDefaultCursor xC_cross`, then you overwrite it with `spawnOn "7" "gimp"`
2022-12-15 22:50:00 +0100 <geekosaur> if you want it to do both, remove lines 18-20 and change line 15 to: ` , startupHook = setDefaultCursor xC_cross <> spawnOn "7" "gimp --no-splash"`
2022-12-15 22:52:33 +0100 <qroolen> super! thanks for that
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2022-12-15 23:05:17 +0100 <qroolen> there is something that i can use to start an app when i focus on a workspace?
2022-12-15 23:07:29 +0100 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-DynamicProjects.html or https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-TopicSpace.html
2022-12-15 23:21:58 +0100sogens(sogens@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/sogens)
2022-12-15 23:24:32 +0100 <qroolen> :)