| 2022-10-09 02:01:01 +0200 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@athedsl-351954.home.otenet.gr) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
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| 2022-10-09 04:43:00 +0200 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:1c1e:509a::1) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
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| 2022-10-09 06:55:19 +0200 | incertia | (~incertia@d47-69-133-171.try.wideopenwest.com) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in) |
| 2022-10-09 07:07:29 +0200 | lions[m] | (~lionsmatr@2001:470:69fc:105::d1fe) |
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| 2022-10-09 08:22:25 +0200 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc0c:c200:442:40c1:9d7f:23d1) |
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| 2022-10-09 12:39:01 +0200 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc0c:c200:9b5d:e3:b4f7:170c) |
| 2022-10-09 15:03:12 +0200 | sagax | (~sagax_nb@user/sagax) |
| 2022-10-09 16:15:05 +0200 | <liskin> | How MuniHac btw? |
| 2022-10-09 16:15:19 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) |
| 2022-10-09 16:15:20 +0200 | <liskin> | Solid: ^ |
| 2022-10-09 16:15:28 +0200 | <liskin> | Oh and where mc47? |
| 2022-10-09 16:17:16 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I feel like I need to move to somewhere in Europe just so I can attend a few of these things… |
| 2022-10-09 16:26:21 +0200 | a6a45081-2b83 | (~aditya@2601:249:4300:1296:88ec:cc73:84d4:1507) |
| 2022-10-09 16:37:06 +0200 | jao | (~jao@cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 2022-10-09 17:02:51 +0200 | thyriaen | (~thyriaen@2a01:aea0:dd4:463c:6245:cbff:fe9f:48b1) |
| 2022-10-09 17:05:05 +0200 | <thyriaen> | Howdy friends - I have a strange behavior - if i run a 2 tabbed windows and a floating one on top: the moment i open the floating one the current tabbed window, whichever is selected gets "remembered" - when I now switch the tabbed window to something else and i give the floating window focus, the tabbed window in the background changes focus to whatever window was "remembered" |
| 2022-10-09 17:05:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, that's typical for floats |
| 2022-10-09 17:06:08 +0200 | <thyriaen> | can i prevent this from happening somehow ? |
| 2022-10-09 17:06:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | try XMonad.Hooks.RefocusLast |
| 2022-10-09 17:08:17 +0200 | <thyriaen> | uff |
| 2022-10-09 17:10:33 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Well, the description is a bit difficult to parse. Sounds like it could be the related but distinct `focusTracking` issue. |
| 2022-10-09 17:10:43 +0200 | <thyriaen> | what does <> this do ? |
| 2022-10-09 17:11:00 +0200 | <thyriaen> | what is the focusTracking issue ? |
| 2022-10-09 17:11:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | monoidal append |
| 2022-10-09 17:11:43 +0200 | <thyriaen> | so when i want that my Loghook is refocusLastLogHook and it was previourlsy return () i just do refocusLastLogHook <> return () > |
| 2022-10-09 17:11:45 +0200 | <thyriaen> | ? |
| 2022-10-09 17:12:23 +0200 | <thyriaen> | [Leary], what issue are you referring too ? how can i explain my issue better? |
| 2022-10-09 17:12:57 +0200 | <[Leary]> | It's where layouts that don't have focus don't know what window to present. Wrapping the layout or sublayout in `focusTracking` is a way to tell it to keep presenting the window/s like when it last had focus. |
| 2022-10-09 17:14:26 +0200 | <thyriaen> | [Leary], seems like it would fix my issue |
| 2022-10-09 17:16:06 +0200 | a6a45081-2b83 | (~aditya@2601:249:4300:1296:88ec:cc73:84d4:1507) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-10-09 17:16:30 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i don't really understand how to use it, reading the documentation |
| 2022-10-09 17:18:12 +0200 | <thyriaen> | myLayout = focusTracking myOldLayout ? |
| 2022-10-09 17:19:52 +0200 | <thyriaen> | perfect, it works thanks :p |
| 2022-10-09 17:20:02 +0200 | c209e6dc-4d76-47 | (~aditya@2601:249:4300:1296:195:dac6:592c:a55a) |
| 2022-10-09 17:23:10 +0200 | c209e6dc-4d76-47 | (~aditya@2601:249:4300:1296:195:dac6:592c:a55a) (Client Quit) |
| 2022-10-09 17:24:31 +0200 | c209e6dc-4d76-47 | (~aditya@c-73-103-92-95.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 2022-10-09 17:35:32 +0200 | c209e6dc-4d76-47 | (~aditya@c-73-103-92-95.hsd1.in.comcast.net) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2022-10-09 17:43:07 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5ce3:8500::a80f) |
| 2022-10-09 17:56:01 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5ce3:8500::a80f) (Quit: Going elsewhere) |
| 2022-10-09 17:57:56 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5ce3:8500::a80f) |
| 2022-10-09 18:11:02 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 2022-10-09 18:13:08 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) |
| 2022-10-09 18:21:18 +0200 | <liskin> | geekosaur: would you need a visa if you wanted to move permanently? |
| 2022-10-09 18:24:10 +0200 | c209e6dc-4d76-47 | (~aditya@2601:249:4300:1296:195:dac6:592c:a55a) |
| 2022-10-09 18:24:26 +0200 | <liskin> | Also moving somewhere far and losing all your support network of friends and relatives is hard even if your physical and mental health is fine. It's a nightmare if not. |
| 2022-10-09 18:35:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yeh. and yes, I'd need to get a visa |
| 2022-10-09 18:36:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that said, between being autistic and most of my relatives being gone I, uh, have a very small support network to start with |
| 2022-10-09 18:36:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | would lose my sister though |
| 2022-10-09 18:37:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and I don't really see any country being interested in an old autistic guy with sensory processing issues (I have in fact been stuck in the dark for the past 2 days because bright light is doing a number on my brain) |
| 2022-10-09 18:38:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | conversely, to the extent I have friends they're all on IRC so locations don't really matter 🙂 |
| 2022-10-09 18:45:32 +0200 | <mikevan[m]> | j |
| 2022-10-09 18:48:11 +0200 | c209e6dc-4d76-47 | (~aditya@2601:249:4300:1296:195:dac6:592c:a55a) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2022-10-09 18:50:23 +0200 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, perfect - where do you live ? |
| 2022-10-09 18:50:34 +0200 | <geekosaur> | akron, ohio |
| 2022-10-09 18:50:55 +0200 | <thyriaen> | oki |
| 2022-10-09 18:51:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you do a web search you can even get my street address, because I have a radio license and the license database is by law public information |
| 2022-10-09 18:51:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | might even have my phone number in it |
| 2022-10-09 18:51:35 +0200 | <thyriaen> | the web knows everything |
| 2022-10-09 18:54:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (and you can get my real name from /whois, from linked in, and probably from dreamwidth) |
| 2022-10-09 18:59:09 +0200 | <thyriaen> | what's dreamwidth ? |
| 2022-10-09 19:01:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://www.dreamwidth.org/ |
| 2022-10-09 19:01:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | social networking site, 90s variety |
| 2022-10-09 19:03:17 +0200 | <thyriaen> | gives off a kinda debian vibe |
| 2022-10-09 19:03:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that's just the logo 🙂 |
| 2022-10-09 19:03:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I admit I was fairly amused when debian adopted much the same logo |
| 2022-10-09 19:04:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (yes, dw came first with the spiral logo) |
| 2022-10-09 19:05:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | although I don't recall if they'd opened the public beta by that point |
| 2022-10-09 19:07:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | not sure how I ended up doing two private betas for social networking sites when I'm autistic; I was also in on the final private beta for what became AOL (but then was AppleLink Personal Edition) |
| 2022-10-09 19:40:10 +0200 | <liskin> | geekosaur: when were you diagnosed? |
| 2022-10-09 19:40:47 +0200 | <liskin> | I don't have my diagnosis yet but I'm becoming more and more certain that an awful lot of things could be explained by one |
| 2022-10-09 19:41:18 +0200 | <liskin> | and many of those symptoms had viable workarounds when I was a kid or a uni student |
| 2022-10-09 19:41:53 +0200 | <liskin> | and those that didn't have workarounds were tolerated by my peers because I was high functioning and smart/valuable/useful enough |
| 2022-10-09 19:42:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sounds familiar. I realized I was autistic when the Asperger paper came to light in the mid 90s and I recognized myself in it |
| 2022-10-09 19:42:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but I was only formally diagnosed 2 years ago |
| 2022-10-09 19:42:32 +0200 | <liskin> | now without that network of people, in a different culture and having to spend energy on all the adulting stuff, it's a different story |
| 2022-10-09 19:43:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it also gets harder as you get older, I've found |
| 2022-10-09 19:43:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | like I have less energy to spend on things other people take for granted |
| 2022-10-09 19:43:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (look up "spoon theory" sometime) |
| 2022-10-09 19:43:42 +0200 | <liskin> | anyway, my point was meant to be that being part of a social networking private beta isn't that weird despite being autistic |
| 2022-10-09 19:44:06 +0200 | <liskin> | demography of early social networks was wildly different than these days |
| 2022-10-09 19:48:47 +0200 | <liskin> | spoon theory looks like a concept that I've been intuitively aware of for a while |
| 2022-10-09 19:50:02 +0200 | <liskin> | I've actually been trying to prioritise using money to make someone else handle some of those daily tasks, but it looks like it's not as easy as I thought |
| 2022-10-09 19:50:52 +0200 | <liskin> | there's still more stuff that I need to do on a daily basis than I had to when I was a uni student and had parents |
| 2022-10-09 19:51:20 +0200 | <liskin> | yet the amount of money it costs me is absurd |
| 2022-10-09 19:52:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yep 😞 |
| 2022-10-09 19:55:00 +0200 | <liskin> | (but then we made the somewhat silly choice of moving to an extremely high-cost-of-living location because it's a necessary step in my wife's career) |
| 2022-10-09 21:14:21 +0200 | banc- | (banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) |
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| 2022-10-09 22:22:38 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@pa49-197-65-177.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
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| 2022-10-09 22:32:01 +0200 | sogens | (sogens@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/sogens) |
| 2022-10-09 22:59:50 +0200 | sogens | (sogens@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/sogens) (Quit: WeeChat 3.6) |
| 2022-10-09 23:02:16 +0200 | sogens | (sogens@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/sogens) |
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| 2022-10-09 23:54:56 +0200 | <HP-UX> | Asperger's here. |
| 2022-10-09 23:56:01 +0200 | <HP-UX> | I think the latest psychiatrist said, and had some testing done, and yeah. Highly functional autist apparently. But still not without behavioral inabilities and disabilities in processing various input. |
| 2022-10-09 23:56:44 +0200 | <HP-UX> | My entire life has been agonizing due to that inability to socialize, know what not to say, when to say, how to say, with what sort of diction, connotation, idiomatic usage... |
| 2022-10-09 23:56:53 +0200 | <HP-UX> | \o/ |
| 2022-10-09 23:57:00 +0200 | <HP-UX> | A computer will never make fun of you. |
| 2022-10-09 23:57:06 +0200 | <HP-UX> | A computer will never harass you. |
| 2022-10-09 23:57:10 +0200 | <HP-UX> | A computer will never judge you. |
| 2022-10-09 23:57:27 +0200 | <HP-UX> | If the computer breaks or doesn't do what I want, it's not because it doesn't like me... |
| 2022-10-09 23:57:34 +0200 | <HP-UX> | It's beacuse I did something wrong. |
| 2022-10-09 23:57:49 +0200 | <HP-UX> | People are mean, man. People are so mean. |
| 2022-10-09 23:57:52 +0200 | <HP-UX> | \o/ |