| 2022-08-27 00:26:27 +0200 | bla | (~bla@83.6.128.205.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl) |
| 2022-08-27 00:27:46 +0200 | thyriaen | (~thyriaen@2a02:8109:8340:686c:c35d:10d0:cfbe:fcc0) |
| 2022-08-27 00:28:25 +0200 | <thyriaen> | I am trying to setup my xmonad enviournment - do you have a good starting point to get polybar up and running with xmonad ? ( no overlapping windows, autoloading on startup ) ? |
| 2022-08-27 00:29:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | should I bother repeating what I told you last time? |
| 2022-08-27 00:30:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "overlapping windows" is https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-ManageDocks.html |
| 2022-08-27 00:30:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | this isn't going to change if you keep asking |
| 2022-08-27 00:30:24 +0200 | <thyriaen> | ohh thanks - i think i did not quite catch your answer last time |
| 2022-08-27 00:30:47 +0200 | <thyriaen> | and i just run polybar with a startup hook ? |
| 2022-08-27 00:31:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | as for autoloading, https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Core.html#v:spawn |
| 2022-08-27 00:32:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | either in main or a startupHook |
| 2022-08-27 00:32:15 +0200 | <thyriaen> | ok perfect thanks |
| 2022-08-27 00:32:23 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i think with this i can start get something going |
| 2022-08-27 00:32:31 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i will try my luck :p |
| 2022-08-27 00:33:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | for it to know about windows, you want either https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-EwmhDesktops.html (easier) or https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar-PP.html plus some dbus glue and xmonad-log feeding polybar (significantly harder) |
| 2022-08-27 00:34:07 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i already have ewmh enabled |
| 2022-08-27 00:34:12 +0200 | <thyriaen> | and i read somewhere about the dbus |
| 2022-08-27 00:34:21 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i don't need dbus with ewmh ? |
| 2022-08-27 00:34:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | nope |
| 2022-08-27 00:35:03 +0200 | <thyriaen> | perfect |
| 2022-08-27 00:35:15 +0200 | <thyriaen> | but all this stuff i will go to once i have a bar running |
| 2022-08-27 00:35:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you only need dbus if you want to control what polybar shows directly with X.H.StatusBar.PP |
| 2022-08-27 00:35:24 +0200 | <thyriaen> | ok |
| 2022-08-27 00:36:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you use EWMH it'll do it itself, but you may want to customize its display which requires the StatusBar stuff and dbus and xmonad-log |
| 2022-08-27 00:36:33 +0200 | <thyriaen> | what do you mean by customize its display ? |
| 2022-08-27 00:36:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sorry for being a bit grumpy btw. I am not having a good day, and I could have sworn I responded quickly the last time you asked so … a bit grumpy |
| 2022-08-27 00:36:58 +0200 | <thyriaen> | no worries - maybe it just slipped through for some reason |
| 2022-08-27 00:37:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | not helped by fighting panic attacks for the past few hours because *sigh* that's my life |
| 2022-08-27 00:37:28 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i had those too in the last 2 weeks |
| 2022-08-27 00:37:35 +0200 | <thyriaen> | for the first time ever |
| 2022-08-27 00:40:42 +0200 | <thyriaen> | alrighty |
| 2022-08-27 00:40:46 +0200 | <thyriaen> | thanks for the link |
| 2022-08-27 00:41:03 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i will now hop over to my xmonad machine and will try to set it up |
| 2022-08-27 00:41:15 +0200 | <thyriaen> | have a good nighty night and see you around when i have more questsions :p |
| 2022-08-27 00:41:34 +0200 | <thyriaen> | take care of yourself - do what makes you feel good inside |
| 2022-08-27 00:42:13 +0200 | thyriaen | (~thyriaen@2a02:8109:8340:686c:c35d:10d0:cfbe:fcc0) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2022-08-27 00:51:09 +0200 | jao | (~jao@cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-08-27 01:01:23 +0200 | thyriaen | (~thyriaen@2a02:8109:8340:686c:f4bb:adc9:da23:30c9) |
| 2022-08-27 01:01:30 +0200 | <thyriaen> | howdy - it's me again :p |
| 2022-08-27 01:03:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes? |
| 2022-08-27 01:03:27 +0200 | <thyriaen> | could you maybe take a look at my xmonad.hs - https://paste.sqt.wtf/2bf5c6@raw i don't understand where xmonad get's the unfocussed border color from - it is not theNormalBorderColor but some sort of darker version of the activeColor i have defined |
| 2022-08-27 01:04:17 +0200 | <thyriaen> | it would be nice if it could be the myNormalBorderColor i have defined instead |
| 2022-08-27 01:05:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | windowNavigation overrides the border colors. you can use a WNConfig to change that |
| 2022-08-27 01:05:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (see configurableNavigation) |
| 2022-08-27 01:06:57 +0200 | <thyriaen> | ah ok |
| 2022-08-27 01:06:58 +0200 | <thyriaen> | thanks |
| 2022-08-27 01:09:48 +0200 | <thyriaen> | hmm i can't find a explanation of wnconfig here: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.11/docs/XMonad-Layout-WindowNavigation.html#t… |
| 2022-08-27 01:10:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | uh, why are you using the docs from 0.11? |
| 2022-08-27 01:11:31 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.36.43) |
| 2022-08-27 01:11:36 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i was asking the same why i got redirected there |
| 2022-08-27 01:12:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but the docs in 0.17 are still a bit opaque. you can't set it directly, you use the functions just above it to build a WNConfig that either uses a custom color for navigation, or uses brightness (which is what you're seeing), or noNavigateBorders for it to leave things alone |
| 2022-08-27 01:13:45 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i don't follow because i can't find the documentation entry |
| 2022-08-27 01:16:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sigh, documentation hasn't been fixed in git either |
| 2022-08-27 01:16:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | meaning there still isn't any |
| 2022-08-27 01:16:53 +0200 | <thyriaen> | oh |
| 2022-08-27 01:17:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | `navigateColor` gives you a WNConfig which uses a specified color to indicate the windows you can reach from the current one |
| 2022-08-27 01:18:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | `navigateBrightness` gives you a WNConfig which changes the brightness of the focused window color to indicate those windows. (This is the default and is why you are seeing the focus color dimmed.) |
| 2022-08-27 01:18:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | `noNavigateBorders` leaves the borders alone |
| 2022-08-27 01:18:35 +0200 | <thyriaen> | noNavigateBorders will leave everything as is |
| 2022-08-27 01:18:40 +0200 | <thyriaen> | which is what i wont |
| 2022-08-27 01:18:42 +0200 | <thyriaen> | want |
| 2022-08-27 01:18:45 +0200 | <thyriaen> | it returns a config |
| 2022-08-27 01:18:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | right |
| 2022-08-27 01:19:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and you can pass that WNConfig to configurableNavigation, which you then use in place of windowNavigation |
| 2022-08-27 01:19:13 +0200 | <thyriaen> | so all i have to do is instead of windowNavitagion $... i just do configurableNavigation noNavigateBorders $ ... right ? |
| 2022-08-27 01:19:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-08-27 01:20:11 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.36.43) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-27 01:20:24 +0200 | <thyriaen> | unfortunatly it did no have the desired effect |
| 2022-08-27 01:20:32 +0200 | <thyriaen> | do i have to reboot ? |
| 2022-08-27 01:20:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | did you mod-q? |
| 2022-08-27 01:20:43 +0200 | <thyriaen> | yea |
| 2022-08-27 01:20:55 +0200 | <thyriaen> | but some color specific options only change on reboot |
| 2022-08-27 01:21:02 +0200 | <thyriaen> | for example tab color or font |
| 2022-08-27 01:21:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | this should change the type so it should reload. |
| 2022-08-27 01:21:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the ones that don't you can press mod-shift-space to force the layout to be recomputed |
| 2022-08-27 01:21:26 +0200 | <thyriaen> | still darker version |
| 2022-08-27 01:21:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it won't hurt to try that |
| 2022-08-27 01:21:57 +0200 | <thyriaen> | also no effect |
| 2022-08-27 01:22:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | what version of xmonad? 0.17.0 has a bug that causes color issues with windowNavigation; it's fixed in git |
| 2022-08-27 01:22:39 +0200 | <thyriaen> | 0.17.0 |
| 2022-08-27 01:22:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | althoiugh I would expect it to be black instead of just darker in that case |
| 2022-08-27 01:23:17 +0200 | <thyriaen> | how can i use a navigateColor to set the border myself ? |
| 2022-08-27 01:24:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | configurableNavigation (navigateColor "blue") $ ... |
| 2022-08-27 01:24:46 +0200 | <thyriaen> | can i use hex instead of blue ? |
| 2022-08-27 01:25:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-08-27 01:25:26 +0200 | <thyriaen> | ok i think i gotta reboot here |
| 2022-08-27 01:25:30 +0200 | <thyriaen> | cause also no effect :p |
| 2022-08-27 01:25:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that sounds like the color bug in 0.17.0 |
| 2022-08-27 01:26:07 +0200 | <thyriaen> | did i undbind the mod shift space thing in my cfg ? |
| 2022-08-27 01:26:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | is there any chance you can upgrade to the git version? |
| 2022-08-27 01:26:38 +0200 | <thyriaen> | only if i compile from source i think |
| 2022-08-27 01:31:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | what distro are you on? |
| 2022-08-27 01:31:24 +0200 | <thyriaen> | fedora 36 |
| 2022-08-27 01:31:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm. dunno about that |
| 2022-08-27 01:32:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but I do think you'll have problems with windowNavigation and border colors until we get 0.17.1 out and distros pick it up |
| 2022-08-27 01:32:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (release currently planned for Sep 3/4) |
| 2022-08-27 01:32:44 +0200 | <thyriaen> | ok |
| 2022-08-27 01:32:50 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i will wait then |
| 2022-08-27 01:33:07 +0200 | <thyriaen> | how quickly does it get packaged with distros usually ? |
| 2022-08-27 01:33:30 +0200 | <thyriaen> | is it the job of the distro or does xmonad push it to them ? |
| 2022-08-27 01:41:06 +0200 | sagax | (~sagax_nb@213.138.71.146) |
| 2022-08-27 01:50:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's up to the distro |
| 2022-08-27 01:50:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | they took forever to get 0.17.0 packaged 😞 |
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| 2022-08-27 12:48:03 +0200 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.0-235-gf77fb802: X.P.OrgMode: Mention more resources (6 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/f77fb802ebbc |
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| 2022-08-27 19:02:35 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | My newly launched windows aren't put on the main stack |
| 2022-08-27 19:02:49 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | I want them to be the master window on launch |
| 2022-08-27 19:02:55 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | what should I be doing? |
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| 2022-08-27 19:05:27 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | [figured it out](https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Hooks-InsertPosition.html) |
| 2022-08-27 19:48:38 +0200 | noex | (~null@user/noex) |
| 2022-08-27 19:56:26 +0200 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/749 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/749 |
| 2022-08-27 19:56:26 +0200 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Brandon S Allbery KF8NH https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/749 * v0.17.0-219-gcd19112f: Document `WNConfig` (8 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 2-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/cd19112fcab6 |
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