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| 2022-08-26 01:04:32 +0200 | Hash | OpenSource | 
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| 2022-08-26 03:41:59 +0200 | <ectospasm> | I'm playing around with MPlayer, and I think XMonad is letting the window stay on top when that's not what I want.  I'd like it to be like any other XWindow, so I can tile it, or hide it with another window. | 
| 2022-08-26 03:42:22 +0200 | <ectospasm> | Right now, MPlayer is always on top, but doesn't always have focus. Cycling the XMonad layouts doesn't help. | 
| 2022-08-26 03:42:48 +0200 | <ectospasm> | I can see my XMonad border around MPlayer, and when it doesn't have focus I can see a few pixels from my terminal emulator below it. | 
| 2022-08-26 03:43:03 +0200 | <ectospasm> | I've tried a few different video output drivers, but they all do the same thing. | 
| 2022-08-26 03:43:26 +0200 | <ectospasm> | The closest I've come to fixing this is using the MPlayer option -rootwin, but that doesn't really do what I want. | 
| 2022-08-26 03:44:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | iirc the default ManageHook does something with mplayer | 
| 2022-08-26 03:44:52 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "always on top" sounds like it got floated, and you want it to be tiled | 
| 2022-08-26 03:46:41 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Wow, it really does. | 
| 2022-08-26 03:46:53 +0200 | <[Leary]> | How has this historical artifact survived until now? | 
| 2022-08-26 03:47:06 +0200 | <[Leary]> | I didn't even know people still used mplayer. | 
| 2022-08-26 03:49:56 +0200 | <ectospasm> | geekosaur: I'm not sure how to disable that.  I don't have a doFloat for mplayer in my xmonad.hs. | 
| 2022-08-26 03:50:25 +0200 | <ectospasm> | here's my current xmonad.hs:  https://git.eldon.me/trey/XMonad/src/branch/master/xmonad.hs | 
| 2022-08-26 03:53:14 +0200 | <ectospasm> | It is getting floated on startup, sending it back to tiling seems to work. | 
| 2022-08-26 03:54:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://git.eldon.me/trey/XMonad/src/branch/master/xmonad.hs#L298 try removing the `<> manageHook desktopConfig` | 
| 2022-08-26 03:54:17 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.36.43) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) | 
| 2022-08-26 03:54:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | most people don't need it anyway, it's pretty obsolete | 
| 2022-08-26 03:54:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (it's past my bedtime so hopefully someone else can help you from here) | 
| 2022-08-26 03:58:35 +0200 | <ectospasm> | geekosaur: that did the trick! | 
| 2022-08-26 04:01:04 +0200 | <[Leary]> | `desktopConfig` seems to apply `docks` and `ewmh` to the default config, but from what I can see, the net effect to the ManageHook is only to add `manageDocks` ... which is already being added in manually anyway. | 
| 2022-08-26 04:01:18 +0200 | <[Leary]> | So what geekosaur suggests is indeed what you want, with no losses. | 
| 2022-08-26 04:02:11 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Though that means there's a lot of duplication in your config, since you're also applying `docks` and `ewmh` manually, hopefully to no effect. | 
| 2022-08-26 04:02:23 +0200 | <[Leary]> | ectospasm: ^ | 
| 2022-08-26 04:04:29 +0200 | banc | (banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 
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| 2022-08-26 04:31:12 +0200 | <ectospasm> | Hmm, I'll have to work on that later.  My xmonad.hs has evolved over the past 12+ years, all without me really learning Haskell.  I learn just enough to make it do something new, or panic when compiling it breaks unexpectedly.  I really should take a class on Haskell, but I just don't have the time. | 
| 2022-08-26 04:33:17 +0200 | <ectospasm> | What gets me is all the operator overloading, and I never understood how to read the expected type of functions. | 
| 2022-08-26 04:33:53 +0200 | <ectospasm> | Especially when they contain intermediate steps | 
| 2022-08-26 04:38:32 +0200 | <[Leary]> | ectospasm: In this case, it's enough to under stand that `xmonad $ docks $ ewmh $ desktopConfig{ ... }` essentially means `xmonad $ docks $ ewmh $ docks $ ewmh $ def{ ... }`, so you can simpify it down to `xmonad $ desktopConfig{ ... }`. | 
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| 2022-08-26 05:00:44 +0200 | <ectospasm> | I'll have to come back sometime later, as it's late for me. I'm sure my xmonsd.hs could be greatly simplified like that, a lot of it has grown over time and there's quite a bit I don't use anymore. | 
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| 2022-08-26 14:36:31 +0200 | <nurfz[m]> | Hi all, I'm using xmonad (0.12) on a raspberry pi and the virtual keyboard "onboard" which I position in a Gap. I want the keyboard to be hidden by default. setGap/setGaps is not available in xmonad 0.12, so I have to use ToggleGaps. But how can I call it once (at startup) to toggle the gaps on ALL workspaces? | 
| 2022-08-26 14:36:32 +0200 | <nurfz[m]> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.12/docs/XMonad-Layout-Gaps.html | 
| 2022-08-26 14:36:32 +0200 | <nurfz[m]> | Any ideas? | 
| 2022-08-26 14:38:26 +0200 | Guest52 | (~Guest52@185.134.109.169) (Quit: Client closed) | 
| 2022-08-26 14:43:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | `broadcastMessage ToggleGaps` in the startupHook? | 
| 2022-08-26 14:44:12 +0200 | <[Leary]> | nurfz[m]: Looks like `gaps'` has what you want. Also, your xmonad is ancient beyond measure. | 
| 2022-08-26 14:44:18 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) | 
| 2022-08-26 14:44:41 +0200 | <[Leary]> | ime, broadcasting to invisible layouts is very unreliable | 
| 2022-08-26 14:45:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | well, yes | 
| 2022-08-26 14:46:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I've done hacky things to get things to happen in the startupHook before 🙂 | 
| 2022-08-26 14:47:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (then rewrote stuff so I didn't need the hack any more) | 
| 2022-08-26 14:50:44 +0200 | <[Leary]> | I once attempted to have mine reset decoration themes to (new) default in all layouts. The lesson I learnt was: don't. | 
| 2022-08-26 14:51:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yeh, I wouldn't trust it with Decoration. that module is hacky to start with | 
| 2022-08-26 14:51:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | oh also we have a growing list of layouts that don't pass on messages even with broadcast | 
| 2022-08-26 14:52:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (which is a bug) | 
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| 2022-08-26 17:26:08 +0200 | <Solid> | 0.12? hot damn | 
| 2022-08-26 17:26:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yeh | 
| 2022-08-26 17:27:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | not even sure that's a reasonable version to run, that was around when ManageDocks was rewritten, with the first couple attempts having bugs | 
| 2022-08-26 17:27:16 +0200 | <Solid> | 7 years ago, apparently; was a cute first semester student and didn't even use gnu/linux back then :> | 
| 2022-08-26 17:27:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think 0.11 would have been better | 
| 2022-08-26 17:42:09 +0200 | justDeez | justache | 
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