| 2022-07-26 00:01:22 +0200 | <wusticality1> | I wonder if 00-keyboard.conf is the wrong name - it's not clear to me if xorg will just load the first one it sees |
| 2022-07-26 00:02:56 +0200 | <wusticality1> | Oh interesting, this line is in the log: `[ 36.804] (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "264 48"` |
| 2022-07-26 00:03:08 +0200 | <wusticality1> | strange, i wonder why it's not working, looks like it was loaded |
| 2022-07-26 00:03:22 +0200 | <wusticality1> | unless there are separate settings for X and the console? |
| 2022-07-26 00:06:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | console doesn't use that file, only xorg |
| 2022-07-26 00:06:17 +0200 | <wusticality1> | or it's somehow being overridden by etc/defaults/keyboard |
| 2022-07-26 00:06:31 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but /etc/defaults/keyboard is possible |
| 2022-07-26 00:06:35 +0200 | geekosaur | looks |
| 2022-07-26 00:06:46 +0200 | <wusticality1> | by console doesn't use that file, are you saying my terminal won't pick up those changes? |
| 2022-07-26 00:07:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the original text console doesn't use it. terminal emulators don't use it directly, it's controlled by the X server not the individual emulator |
| 2022-07-26 00:07:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | looks like I odon't have an /etc/defaults/keyboard |
| 2022-07-26 00:09:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | on debian at least that file doesn't control autorepeat, just localization |
| 2022-07-26 00:09:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | oh whoops, wrong path. I have it and it has what the debian wiki says it should |
| 2022-07-26 00:10:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | maybe your OS supports autorepeat in there |
| 2022-07-26 00:15:20 +0200 | <wusticality1> | i tried editing that file but it doesn't seem to |
| 2022-07-26 00:15:39 +0200 | geekosaur | makes nopte that vscode's git integration does the wrong thing with nested git repos 😕 |
| 2022-07-26 00:17:16 +0200 | <wusticality1> | crazy how tough it seems to be just to change the default repeat speed :/ |
| 2022-07-26 00:18:43 +0200 | <wusticality1> | apparently https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard |
| 2022-07-26 00:18:51 +0200 | <wusticality1> | checked the man pages, nothing about AutoRepeat sadly |
| 2022-07-26 00:19:02 +0200 | <wusticality1> | not sure what they expect you to do - xset is unreliable |
| 2022-07-26 00:19:05 +0200 | <wusticality1> | kinda like xmondmap |
| 2022-07-26 00:19:09 +0200 | <wusticality1> | *xmodmap |
| 2022-07-26 00:20:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if the keyboard setting for xorg didn't work you have worse problems than xset, I think |
| 2022-07-26 00:20:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sadly I have no idea what they might be |
| 2022-07-26 00:22:22 +0200 | <wusticality1> | xset works if i just type it into my terminal |
| 2022-07-26 00:22:25 +0200 | <wusticality1> | just isn't working on startup |
| 2022-07-26 00:22:39 +0200 | <wusticality1> | does 00-keyboard.conf have any specific meaning? |
| 2022-07-26 00:22:56 +0200 | <wusticality1> | that is to say, is it arbitrary |
| 2022-07-26 00:27:47 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's semiarbitrary. an xorg.conf is built by concatenating all the fragments in xorg.conf.d in numeric order |
| 2022-07-26 00:28:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so the number matters but the name part is just documentation as to what the file is intended for |
| 2022-07-26 00:29:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you night look over the other files in there to see if they have input sections of their own |
| 2022-07-26 00:29:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *might |
| 2022-07-26 00:31:35 +0200 | <wusticality1> | that xorg.conf.d directory is empty for me |
| 2022-07-26 00:33:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | mm, these days I'm pretty sure there are defaults used if nnothing is specified, so that may be okay. (well, is okay, otherwise X wouldn't start) |
| 2022-07-26 00:34:52 +0200 | <wusticality1> | yeah, must be /etc/default/keyboard |
| 2022-07-26 00:35:02 +0200 | <wusticality1> | i just wish i could put autorepeat into that file |
| 2022-07-26 00:35:06 +0200 | <wusticality1> | it'd make all of this much simpler |
| 2022-07-26 00:35:15 +0200 | <wusticality1> | i honestly wonder if the xorg one is being overwritten by that file or something |
| 2022-07-26 00:35:28 +0200 | <wusticality1> | though you think it'd be just overwriting, not nuking |
| 2022-07-26 00:35:34 +0200 | <geekosaur> | can't see it since it's not documented as doing anything with autorepeat |
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| 2022-07-26 00:41:35 +0200 | <wusticality1> | hmm |
| 2022-07-26 00:41:46 +0200 | <wusticality1> | i wonder what would happen if i removed /etc/default/keyboard |
| 2022-07-26 00:41:54 +0200 | <wusticality1> | would hate to totally break my system |
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| 2022-07-26 01:09:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | how long do you plan to insist that a file that is documented to have nothing to do with keyboard repeat (man 5 keyboard) is your problem? |
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| 2022-07-26 01:11:06 +0200 | srk- | srk |
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| 2022-07-26 01:59:38 +0200 | <wusticality1> | touche |
| 2022-07-26 02:00:26 +0200 | <wusticality1> | I was only speculating because I wasn't sure if maybe the /etc/default/keyboard settings totally wiped the xorg ones (even though those settings have no concept of auto repeat), that's all |
| 2022-07-26 02:00:35 +0200 | <wusticality1> | Hopefully I can find some other solution eventually |
| 2022-07-26 02:04:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if xorg took the original settings then I can only imagine some program run later is resetting them. on my setup I'd be examining mate settings because there's various mate stuff scattered through the global xinitrc even if you aren't running mate, but that's debian/ubuntu specific |
| 2022-07-26 02:05:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (/etc/X11/Xsession.d on my system) |
| 2022-07-26 02:06:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but you also have to check /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, which on debian just runs the Xsession.d stuff |
| 2022-07-26 02:07:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | this sadly varies a lot between distributions so you'll have to do your own digging |
| 2022-07-26 02:07:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (there's also an xinputrc but it also doesn't do autorepeat, it's about XIM) |
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| 2022-07-26 02:20:56 +0200 | <wusticality1> | such is linux eh :) |
| 2022-07-26 02:21:04 +0200 | <wusticality1> | it's pretty much the last thing I have to fix, that and scroll speed |
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| 2022-07-26 02:28:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sadly, scroll speed is per application as you were told a few days ago |
| 2022-07-26 02:29:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (pretty sure it is in Wayland, too. there's no central control for it) |
| 2022-07-26 02:31:29 +0200 | <wusticality1> | oh right (have to go check my comments, haven't looked into it yet) |
| 2022-07-26 02:31:33 +0200 | <wusticality1> | I wonder how gnome does that |
| 2022-07-26 02:32:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | gtk3/gnome apps probably use a common configuration hidden in dconf somewhere. but random other programs (firefox, emacs, etc.) use their own |
| 2022-07-26 02:40:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | for emacs there's some elisp configuration setting that defaulted last I checked to scrolling 5 lines per input from the scrollwheel |
| 2022-07-26 02:41:31 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I wouldn't be surprised if firefox requires editing some javascript somewhere |
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| 2022-07-26 02:58:47 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sigh. whne I'm the one having weird xmonad issues, there's nobody to ask… |
| 2022-07-26 02:59:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | when I mod-q, the focused window gets copied to all workspaces. this is undone when I switch workspaces. the only occurrence of `copyToAll` in my config is https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L126-L127 |
| 2022-07-26 03:00:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and `manageDebug` shows the focused window doesn't have `_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY` |
| 2022-07-26 03:01:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but that the window has been copied to all workspaces anyway |
| 2022-07-26 03:01:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | actually it's undone when I move it back to its original workspace after switching |
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| 2022-07-26 05:55:30 +0200 | <wusticality1> | geekosaur: wish I could help :/ |
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