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2022-07-11 06:34:12 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> why is this error happening
2022-07-11 06:34:13 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> ```
2022-07-11 06:34:13 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> xmonad.hs:88:27-51: Non-exhaustive patterns in lambda
2022-07-11 06:34:51 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> , ppOrder = \[ws, l, _, wins] -> [ws]
2022-07-11 06:34:56 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> this is the code
2022-07-11 06:35:08 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> i only want ws info
2022-07-11 06:36:09 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> and i think it was working before
2022-07-11 06:36:28 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> and also in xmobar all i see is updatin
2022-07-11 06:36:30 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> s/updatin/updating/
2022-07-11 06:44:15 +0200 <Lears> Zedgamer9128[m]: `[ws, l, _, wins]` is a pattern that only accepts lists of length four, producing an error on input of any other length. Since you just want the first element, you can write this function as `take 1`, which takes a prefix of length at most one and never fails.
2022-07-11 06:45:01 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> Lears: oh how would i do that
2022-07-11 06:45:51 +0200 <Lears> , ppOrder = take 1
2022-07-11 06:48:13 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> this worked
2022-07-11 06:48:14 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> Lears: ```
2022-07-11 06:48:14 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> , ppOrder = \(ws:_:_:_) -> [ws]
2022-07-11 06:48:14 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> ```
2022-07-11 06:48:31 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> from dynamicLog documentation
2022-07-11 06:53:14 +0200 <Lears> That's a pattern which fails if the list has fewer than three elements, despite only using the first. It's not really idiomatic haskell, but I guess this function is supposed to make some assumptions about the size of its input.
2022-07-11 06:58:31 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> what is the latest xmonad version
2022-07-11 06:59:02 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> i have it installed by stack. how would upgrade xmonad to the latest version by stack
2022-07-11 06:59:10 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> * how would i upgrade xmonad
2022-07-11 06:59:24 +0200 <Zedgamer9128[m]> do i just git pull and stack install
2022-07-11 07:58:18 +0200 <Solid> Zedgamer9128[m]: yes
2022-07-11 07:58:52 +0200 <Solid> r.e. ppOrder: yes it's unfortunate that it takes a list and not something more concrete, but much to late to change that now :(
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2022-07-11 13:42:24 +0200 <pok_> hey all, for some reason my xmobar won't start up. fresh install using stack of xmonad-0.17, contrib-0.17 and xmobar-0.44. anybody know where i can see the logs for why its not working?
2022-07-11 13:44:55 +0200 <geekosaur[m]> Typically they go to the session log which is usually something like .xsession-errors
2022-07-11 13:48:11 +0200 <pok_> thanks, it doesn't looks like i have an .xsession-errors file at the moment. presume thats because i am using sddm. will see if i can track it down.
2022-07-11 13:49:04 +0200 <geekosaur[m]> .local/sddm/xorg-session.log iirc
2022-07-11 13:49:34 +0200 <pok_> geekosaur[m]: excellent - found it. thanks!
2022-07-11 13:52:54 +0200 <geekosaur> and usually it'll have something like "expecting 's'" which is its annoying way of saying you're missing a plugin
2022-07-11 14:04:14 +0200 <pok_> great - thanks will keep that in mind. my issue was that xmobar wasn't on the path
2022-07-11 14:10:21 +0200 <geekosaur> right, that';s another common one. I use a wrapper script which sources my dotfiles, which aren't normally read by X11 startup
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2022-07-11 15:53:06 +0200 <mrbeastwick> Does the TagWindows library allow one to display tagged windows on multiple workspaces? https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0.9/XMonad-Actions-TagWindows.html
2022-07-11 15:55:06 +0200 <geekosaur> withTaggedP "tagname" copyToAll -- or see copy and friends. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Actions-CopyWindow.html
2022-07-11 15:55:23 +0200 <mrbeastwick> thanks :)
2022-07-11 15:55:46 +0200 <geekosaur> anything that works with a WindowSet for the …P variants, any X action for the regular ones
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2022-07-11 17:20:25 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> How to set a keyboarding to move focus to a window in next group?
2022-07-11 17:20:26 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> That is `window W.focusDown` for groups
2022-07-11 17:24:50 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> s/keyboarding/keybinding/
2022-07-11 17:27:46 +0200dschrempf(~dominik@mobiledyn-62-240-134-33.mrsn.at)
2022-07-11 17:36:52 +0200 <geekosaur> uh, which groups? we have several different notions of "group"
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2022-07-11 17:44:52 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> <geekosaur> "uh, which groups? we have..." <- Group as in when we group together a bunch of windows as sublayout
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2022-07-11 17:46:42 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Like this image
2022-07-11 17:48:47 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Jump btw window in left and the one window in right, not all 3 windows just 2 of em each from one group
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2022-07-11 18:04:20 +0200 <geekosaur[m]> That actually makes it worse because that could be ComboP instead of Layout.Group or similar
2022-07-11 18:04:33 +0200 <geekosaur[m]> Sorry had a phone call
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2022-07-11 18:09:18 +0200 <geekosaur> can you show your config so I can see which setup you're using? as I said, there are a number of ways to group windows
2022-07-11 18:09:45 +0200 <geekosaur> Combo, ComboP, LayoutCombinators, Layout.Groups, others
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2022-07-11 18:10:34 +0200 <geekosaur> there's another one that presumably isn't what your're doing because a group is defined by predicate and you can't e.g. change className of a window
2022-07-11 18:11:52 +0200 <geekosaur> actually I suppose that means not ComboP either since that's also by predicate, but it could still be Combo
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2022-07-11 18:14:47 +0200 <geekosaur> if it is Layout.Groups then you probably want https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-Groups-Helpers.html#v…
2022-07-11 18:14:59 +0200 <geekosaur> but that won't work if it's Combo
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2022-07-11 18:29:49 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> <geekosaur> "can you show your config so I..." <- I'm setting my layout like this... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/4eaacaa1cf57466f3ef98c3401a18663e695…)
2022-07-11 18:30:38 +0200 <geekosaur> subLayout, hm.
2022-07-11 18:31:58 +0200 <geekosaur> pushWindow <direction>, looks like
2022-07-11 18:32:00 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Just it didn't work
2022-07-11 18:32:01 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> <geekosaur> "if it is Layout.Groups then..." <- I tried to use focusGroupDown
2022-07-11 18:32:15 +0200 <geekosaur> won;'t work with sublayouts, only with X.L.Groups
2022-07-11 18:32:26 +0200 <geekosaur> this is why I asked which kind of groups you were using
2022-07-11 18:32:36 +0200 <geekosaur> there's a *bunch* of different ways to group windows
2022-07-11 18:32:50 +0200 <geekosaur> you want pushWindow here
2022-07-11 18:33:13 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> geekosaur: Oo I see
2022-07-11 18:33:48 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Can you show an example config or some documentation, I'm kinda new to this
2022-07-11 18:36:06 +0200 <geekosaur> you would bind a key to `sendMessage (pushWindow D)` or similar (adjust direction according to what you're doing)
2022-07-11 18:36:40 +0200 <geekosaur> the same way you have keys bound to `sendMessage (pullGroup D)` and such
2022-07-11 18:37:00 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Okay I'll try that out
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2022-07-11 18:45:26 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> <geekosaur> "you would bind a key to `..." <- When I check the official documentation both pull group and push group are having the same definition
2022-07-11 18:45:27 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> What's the difference between both?
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2022-07-11 18:46:27 +0200 <geekosaur> looks to me like they have `c` and `o` swapped?
2022-07-11 18:47:44 +0200 <geekosaur> pushWindow, not pushGroup?
2022-07-11 18:49:30 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> geekosaur: I was talking about the description, not the function definition
2022-07-11 18:50:47 +0200 <geekosaur> the description says the difference between the two, it's just duplicated out of laziness (programmer laziness, not Haskell's)
2022-07-11 18:51:04 +0200 <geekosaur> "inheriting the position of the current window (pull) or the other window (push)"
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2022-07-11 18:52:09 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> geekosaur: Ok I see
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2022-07-11 19:06:43 +0200 <geekosaur> I think this is the third time… to move a window between them you use pushWindow instead of pushGroup
2022-07-11 19:18:46 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> <geekosaur> "I think this is the third time..." <- Ok after the third time I think you understood my question wrong, I want to jump btw groups just like Alt-tab jumps between Windows I need to jump between the first window of each group, push and pull group combains Windows together right? Not shift focus and thats what I want
2022-07-11 19:19:16 +0200 <geekosaur> okaym I misunderstood, sorry
2022-07-11 19:21:54 +0200 <geekosaur> I think you just use WindowNavigation for that: sendMessage (Go D)
2022-07-11 19:25:46 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> geekosaur: ` , ("M-C-<Tab>", sendMessage (Go D))` this doesn't seem to work
2022-07-11 19:26:05 +0200 <geekosaur> I don't think there's a way to go directly to the next group, you have to go through all the windows in that direction
2022-07-11 19:26:29 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Thanks
2022-07-11 19:26:30 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> I get it
2022-07-11 19:27:16 +0200 <geekosaur> I'm looking at that layout stack. It's a bit weird
2022-07-11 19:27:33 +0200 <geekosaur> you have both `noBorders` and `smartBorders` next to each other
2022-07-11 19:28:29 +0200 <geekosaur> you have `avoidStruts` inside several other layouts, which will cause bars to malfunction because you can't avoid a strut when you're not on the outside of the stack
2022-07-11 19:29:13 +0200 <geekosaur> I'm also wondering how `addTabs` fits in with that whole thing. it's outside of the `subLayout` but it may still cause weirdness
2022-07-11 19:29:23 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> geekosaur: I've my boarder set to 0 since I'm using top bar, thats why I didnt bother changing it ig I'll change it now
2022-07-11 19:29:54 +0200 <geekosaur> if you set border to 0 then I don't think either of those modifiers will help you
2022-07-11 19:31:20 +0200 <geekosaur> don't think you can move between tabs via keyboard either
2022-07-11 19:35:14 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-SubLayouts.html in `sublayout` example it's show like that, ig that's why I tried to use it
2022-07-11 19:35:56 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> geekosaur: Well I can move around with tabs currently
2022-07-11 19:36:16 +0200 <geekosaur> right, but subTabbed exists for a specific reason because tabs combine weirdly with groups
2022-07-11 19:36:43 +0200 <geekosaur> but I think that's about tabs inside the groups, whereas your `addTabs` is outside
2022-07-11 19:37:32 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> geekosaur: SubTabbed has a weird glitch thats why I didnt use it
2022-07-11 19:37:34 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/343
2022-07-11 19:38:00 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> geekosaur: Ooh
2022-07-11 19:38:34 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Imma change the boarders anyways, I knew something was wrong there but since I didn't use it I was too lazy to remove em
2022-07-11 19:39:07 +0200 <geekosaur> right, but that glitch will happen regardless of how you do it, it's a flaw in message handling
2022-07-11 19:39:20 +0200 <geekosaur> whoich we're not sure how to fix without breaking other things
2022-07-11 19:39:33 +0200 <geekosaur> I think that's the second or third ticket about the same core issue
2022-07-11 19:39:46 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> But using it with add tabs doesn't cause that glitch
2022-07-11 19:40:10 +0200 <geekosaur> right, because those are outside so it always receives the messages
2022-07-11 19:40:23 +0200 <geekosaur> it's stuff inside addTabs that won't reliably receive Hide messages
2022-07-11 19:40:54 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> geekosaur: Ooh I see
2022-07-11 19:41:41 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Btw (this)[https://github.com/lladeebll/dotFiles/tree/master/dotfiles/.config/xmonad] is my xmonad config, if anyone in here got extra time, please go through this, I'm just a beginner there might be a lotta problems with this
2022-07-11 19:41:45 +0200 <geekosaur> or vice versa, subLayout won't tell all its sublayouts to hide so tabs will stick around untimely
2022-07-11 19:42:33 +0200 <geekosaur> which is what I meant about addTabs being (correctly) outside of subLayout instead of inside it where it breaks badly
2022-07-11 19:44:13 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> <geekosaur> "you have `avoidStruts` inside..." <- So `avoidStruts` need to be out side everything?
2022-07-11 19:45:36 +0200 <geekosaur> yes
2022-07-11 19:45:48 +0200 <geekosaur> since the struts are always on the very edge of the screen
2022-07-11 19:46:28 +0200 <geekosaur> `avoidStruts` will happily try to reserve space somewhere else, but it won't match where the strut-owning program is drawing in that case
2022-07-11 19:47:05 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Ok I see, I've removed `noBoarders` `smartBoards` and added `avoidStruts` outside all layouts
2022-07-11 19:47:30 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Ig these should solve all the problems with my layout
2022-07-11 19:47:48 +0200 <geekosaur> hopefully
2022-07-11 19:48:20 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> Cool, thanks
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2022-07-11 23:15:58 +0200 <wusticality> Hey folks, I've been trying to find a reliable way to swap the Windows and Alt keys in XMonad (in gnome, I use tweaks select the "Left Win as Meta key" option). I've tried using xmodmap (see here: https://gist.github.com/wusticality/c0fc6b8c92bbadf52ad6e833be63c396) to get around this, and that works, temporarily, but within a minute or two,
2022-07-11 23:15:58 +0200 <wusticality> certain applications wipe my xmodmap settings, breaking my keybindings all over again. I tried to resolve this by running it in a loop forever on startup (aka, something like this: [ -f "$HOME/.Xmodmap" ] && sleep 4 && while true; do xmodmap "$HOME/.Xmodmap"; sleep 1; done &), but that causes other problems. Is there some way to swap the Windows
2022-07-11 23:15:59 +0200 <wusticality> and Alt keys when using XMonad that's reliable? Thanks very much in advance, this has me totally blocked.
2022-07-11 23:21:30 +0200 <geekosaur> what are these "certain applications"?
2022-07-11 23:22:49 +0200 <geekosaur> also technically xmodmap is obsolete and Xkb should be used.
2022-07-11 23:24:01 +0200 <geekosaur> "Alt is swapped with Super/Win" is one of the provided Xkb options, but configuring Xkb manually is somewhat annoying
2022-07-11 23:24:36 +0200 <wusticality> oh, xmodmap is deprecated?
2022-07-11 23:25:16 +0200 <wusticality> honestly, I just need something that works
2022-07-11 23:25:23 +0200 <wusticality> will Xkb work if you run wayland?
2022-07-11 23:25:50 +0200 <geekosaur> yes, wayland devs got so confused by keyboard configuration that they just imported Xkb as is
2022-07-11 23:26:41 +0200 <wusticality> hah
2022-07-11 23:26:58 +0200 <wusticality> I'll look into it right away - I assume you can have some text-based config that's loaded on startup
2022-07-11 23:27:34 +0200 <geekosaur> probably you want the setxkbmap command, rather than trying to build a new config for xkbcomp
2022-07-11 23:30:12 +0200 <wusticality> ok, will take a look :)
2022-07-11 23:31:41 +0200 <liskin> wusticality: take a look at man xkeyboard-config
2022-07-11 23:31:49 +0200 <geekosaur> setxkbmap -option altwin:swap_alt_win, looks like
2022-07-11 23:32:29 +0200 <geekosaur> which shouldleave the rest of the keyboard alone instead of selecting a different layout
2022-07-11 23:32:29 +0200 <liskin> Yeah, and you can put that in /etc/default/keyboard or wherever your distro puts it
2022-07-11 23:34:10 +0200 <wusticality> I wonder if that option swaps both alt / win keys
2022-07-11 23:34:15 +0200 <wusticality> I need them swapped on both sides
2022-07-11 23:38:27 +0200 <geekosaur> I just checked with mate's keyboard settings and it looks like it's swapped on both sides
2022-07-11 23:38:44 +0200 <geekosaur> (can't be 100% certain as my right alt is actually a compose key)
2022-07-11 23:39:14 +0200 <wusticality> is it possible to rebind individual keys with that program ala xmodmap?
2022-07-11 23:39:29 +0200 <wusticality> gotta say though, xmodmap constantly forgets my settings, it's rough
2022-07-11 23:39:34 +0200 <geekosaur> for individual keys you would need to resort to xkbcomp
2022-07-11 23:39:56 +0200 <geekosaur> setxkbmap can only use certain prepackaged configurations
2022-07-11 23:40:45 +0200 <geekosaur> that said, using xkbcomp you can remap every key on the keyboard including some xmodmap can't touch (like which key, if any, can immediately shut down the server)
2022-07-11 23:41:07 +0200 <wusticality> is this something you execute in your .profile or something? aka, is this setting persistent for a session?
2022-07-11 23:41:13 +0200 <geekosaur> (default is control-alt-backspace, if you're wondering, but it's disabled by default)
2022-07-11 23:41:58 +0200 <geekosaur> you would need to rerun it at the start of every session, but .profile is not typically run by X11 sessions; you'd run it with spawnOnce in your xmonad startupHook
2022-07-11 23:42:17 +0200 <wusticality> oh ok
2022-07-11 23:42:31 +0200 <wusticality> this is an absolute lifesaver if it works out
2022-07-11 23:45:26 +0200 <wusticality> hoping it doesn't lose it's state the way xmodmap does
2022-07-11 23:46:01 +0200 <geekosaur> you never did way which app was causing you trouble
2022-07-11 23:46:30 +0200 <geekosaur> if it's (say) a kde app that launches the kde setting manager in the background then you may have to use the kde keyboard configuration dialog to change it
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2022-07-11 23:47:38 +0200 <wusticality> Honestly, I'm not sure
2022-07-11 23:48:03 +0200 <wusticality> I'm using Signal, Slack, Discord, JetBrains apps, Emacs, Alacritty, Chrome, etc.
2022-07-11 23:48:14 +0200 <wusticality> without fail though, every few minutes, my xmodmap settings disappear
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